Some have objected to the creationist assertion that "2 miles of sediment could not be laid down by 1 mile of water." Oh really? How about you try a little experiment as I did this morning. Take two glasses and put 1" of water in one and 2" of sand in the other. Now pour the water into the sand, cover the mixture with your hand and shake (simulating the violent conditions of floodwaters), then let the sediment settle. You will now have about 2" of sand and about 1/4" of clear water above the sand. I tried this experiment this morning and it works great.
Moral of the story: 1 mile of water can indeed deposit 2 miles of sediment ... and it most likely did just that in the Great Flood of Noah.
One more thing. There was more than 1 mile of water available. The average ocean depth today is 12,200 feet covering 3/4 of the earth's surface. If the available water was spread over the whole earth, this would equate to over 1.7 miles deep. So we don't just have 1 mile of water ... we've got more than a mile and a half of water to work with.
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The average ocean depth today is 12,200 feet covering 3/4 of the earth's surface. If the available water was spread over the whole earth, this would equate to over 1.7 miles deep. So we don't just have 1 mile of water ... we've got more than a mile and a half of water to work with."
It is spread all over the earth. How do you expect water from the ocean to cover land (1.5 miles deep) if it isn't currently covering the land?
Hold on, hold on. Let's see now. That's one inch of water in the first glass. Two inches of sand in the second. Hold on. Pour the water into the sand. Cover. Shake. OK so far? Hold on. Holy mackeral, you're right. That never occurred to scientists. How could we be so blind?
Man, where was the last time kids did volcanoes in school as science project?, nobody explained to this guy that his experiment is like saying that 1+1=3?, that GEOLOGY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY?
Er, that's not a flood. That's a mudslide.
Also, your 'experiment' is highly flawed, as are your calculations.
Here's a better experiment:
This hasn't really accomplish anything, but now your tub's full of mud. And that, my friend, is priceless.
Our observation of nature must be diligent, our reflection profound, and our experiments exact. We rarely see these three means combined; and for this reason, creative geniuses are not common.
You, dave, don't even have one of these means.
I had to counter this experiment in an argument with a snakeoil salesman not to long ago. You would be surprised how many people thought it proves a global flood happened.
Hell, even after explaining all the flaws in it people still asked me if I had even tried it. Like making mud would cange my outlook on creationism.
Some have objected to the creationist assertion that "2 miles of sediment could not be laid down by 1 mile of water."
That's 2 miles of sandstone , not sediment. Come back in a few years and tell us if the two inches of sand have solidified into solid rock.
Did that prove... anything? Anything at all? I mean, this reminds me of the guy who thought he'd invented a wondrous new energy source -- a crank-powered flywheel. He tried to prove his point in front of Congress with a torque wrench and left everyone wondering what the hell he was trying to prove. (Look up "Garabed Giragossian" -- he was mentioned in Robert Park's <i>Voodoo Science</i>.)
So two inches of sand begat two inches of sand.
Holy shit. I'm literally shaking with excitement as to what this means for the future of not only religion, but science in gen-Oooooh! A shiny penny! *singsong* I found a lucky penny, I found a lucky penny!
Even if all the water on Earth, including the clouds and whatnot, rained down, sea levels would rise by a grand total of 3 inches. Taking into account your sediment hypothesis its still a maximum of 9 inches of sludge... Dirty but not devastating.
Has anyone explained to this twit that 1.7 miles above sea level still leaves a lot of land above the water?
As if there were not so many other problems with the flood myth. It was discovered to be an adaptation of an older one in a polytheist context (Utnapishtim vs Noah), a wooden boat of that size or weight would not hold, animals cannot suddenly migrate from everywhere, move on a boat, then return to their habitats, so few animals or humans could never have repopulated the Earth, lacking the minimal viable population and genetic diversity, etc. And hey, we have discovered strong evidence for an old Earth and for biological evolution. None for that ancient story.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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