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Hi!
My son has what THEY call autism. I will not speak the " a ' word over him as that gives it power. I try to only speak of the healing power of Jesus over Ben.
I am saved and so is my husband. Ben is 10. But att his point im not sure excaly how much he understands of Jesus. I play anointed music and a few spoken word cds in his room much of the time. We have Christian Tv on a good deal. I speak about Jesus of course. How much does he know? This something that God alone knows as he has not yet spoken to us....
Is deliverence from any demons scriptual ... on his behalf? I would say so but what say u?

Brain in a jar.
I don't know how many that have commented on my life here have read my responses that i admit were lengthy. Under one i explained a lot that would at least attempt to answer your questions here.
There has been a lot of assumptions based on what people think i believe that are being made out of quotes from the D.M site. I agree with u and others if i didn't know the truth the posts in and of them selves would sound awful and i would myself be appalled. But please understand those subjects and quotes wasn't a blog to the open world but in what i thought was a private forum to Christiane who know about me. I do pm, people and several are in a situation when i make a remark they know what im saying.
In accordance with many of subcultures Christianity has own own language we call "Christianize".It sounds confusing and silly but its a language of our own inner culture . In America there are many subcultures that have their own lingo. We do to. So when something is said it may seem to mean one thing to outsiders but its something else to us.
If that had been a open blog to all .. it would have been advisable to use language u could understand but i didst realize that people were peeping in and watching, I do now.
' One thing..my quote " Jesus is Lord over Autism' is a statement based on the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. You mostly on here don't believe in that but i do ... i am a christian. A person who believes in the bodily resurrection of man the world knew of a as Jesus of Nazareth a Jew...who walked among us about 2000 years ago.
I don't know if know what Jesus said after his resurrection and before he went back into the heavens... but he told us that he now was ' "Lord of Lords based on his passion on the cross and what happened when he was dead those three days in the under world.
He then said because of this his disciples could go and CONTINUE his ministry he started which was ' healing thew sick' ; setting the captive free' declaring good news to the poor" Raising the dead" and on and on.
Jesus is Lord over autism means he is STRONGER and MIGHTIER Then Autism. Its a quote of faith in the power and majesty of Jesus over this thing we call autism spectrum disorder..
One... thing needs to be made Crystal clear !Its a small subculture of Christians that believe medicine and doctors is a form of what is called Pharmakeia.. and thus mistrustful of it ,,one of the reasons being that medicine in the past( and in some parts of the word) has and is being associated with the occult.
But i and the church which i attend which is very fundamentalist does not believe that. We believe that Doctors nurses and such are GIFTS from God. God knows that not all people will be cured by the preaching of the gospel( for various reasons) and in his love for humanity has put in the earth remedies. Even the beautiful flowers which contained within it opium ...., was created i believe not only for the loveliness of this flowers bloom but for the narcotic in it that gives comfort and relief to those in agonizing pain. God did that and masked this gift in a gorgeous flower we all the Poppi!.
Herbs and all kinds of meds made and coming from the earth where made to help mankind in our fallen state for to hep alive ate our suffering ( NOT ABUSE)!God with this has over the centuries gave people with great minds and incurable curiosities to people to enable them to learn what God had hidden in the earth, for our betterment .Sadly some evil people have used the blessings of the opiate to enslave people and it can like other things become a agent of evil. But that has come out of the bent and twisted heart of men themselves and the fallen angel they serve..Not God the creator.,
In the process of time because of mans rebellion and following evil ,,, what was meant to be a blessing turned into something that would be used to gain access to the supernatural world ( ask those about their 'trips" when on certain drugs ."Sadly as we all know many drugs meant for good because of Greed are now destroying lives because of addiction . Opiates and certain drugs are powerful tools that can do great things for people in deep pain or in the wrong hands put people in pain,,,, such is the wisdom to have laws monitoring now what we call' "controlled substance"I as a christian believe that a fallen angel in rebellion to God is behind the misuse of medicine and made it into a evil thing wile in the hands of certain people.The original purpose of medicine and doctors was to help man.(Though this sounds silly to u remember im a christian and this makes sense to me..)
So of course i don't believe doctors and hospitals and medicines are evil in and of themselves.. I now have a inner ear infection now which is very painful and is being treated by my licensed doctor with antibiotics and for the pain ear pressure Vicodin.
So im not anti medicine.
" We send our kids including Ben to a doctor and we certainly embrace the teaching methods and wonderful people i believe God has used to help Ben. School for Ben in the class they call special needs is like a kinda garden class., in its setup,,, and structure. Its also has days where they go to the library,,swim... and do all kinds of fun things ... The people who do this i believe have been given this inner love of the such children and drawn to them because of again... God. God put it into them or why else would one subject themselves to such a difficult disability where kids can scream and cry at any given moment,,,, seem not to understand,,,, bite and the work seems it can be can be monotonous.\ I have good relationships with his teachers which when we have to change teachers in which we did this year was painful because one can grow very fond of them as their love and support are so appreciated.
Once Ben was mistreated by a substitute teacher, which was saw by Ben's driver and another mother. I never saw it but they reported it. The woman who got overly rough i asked that she not be fired but i did not want her to work with Ben anymore. and as far as a i know the school administration complied. But that was one woman who probably had a bad say and Ben was more then likely being difficult and she was probably not used to children who have by doctors or educators been put on the the spectrum.
So there is a looking after each other among us..
My mom who is not a fundamentalist christian in the least started a group that educated people in our area about autism.It was in effect fir about three years. Mom is well grounded in how this thing works,, has done tons of research and study and has talked to doctors by phone that are quite renown. So along with the internet and my mom i have access to what ever i wish to know along the medical and scientific fields.
But i also believe in God... that loves mankind.,and has saved us from a fallen state scene Adam and Eve listened to the lies of Lucifer in a serpents body and disobeyed God and were cast out of paradise. God the creator sent his own son in a human body to interact with us ,teach us about him.. and his Heavenly Father then willingly die a horrible death that involved more then just the agonies of crucifixion. But to get into this areas would be getting into the theology of the Passion of the death and Resurrection and most in here don't believe it so i wont 'Go there".
I have said so much this far to communicate that among the things Christ died for was for healing of mind and bodies. When Jesus died he said " it is finished" Jesus then went into hell for three more days and nights and we are told he rose in victory having obtained l
Lordship over All humanity.. To the even mild curious.... When God created mankind he 'Rented the world he had created ti the first man Adam.As long as Man remained subject to God men would live under blessing,,, health, life and peace. But When Adam sold out and " gave his" lease" to Lucifer a shrewd and deeply rebellious angel that has been around for perhaps Billions of years, Lucifer had the right to take over and do as he wished..... thus we have wars,,,, death.. sickness. poverty and excommunication with a relationship with our creator . We became under Satan's lordship.... Until Jesus Christ could win the title deed of the earth back.....
Healing and divine health are available. One old method that has improved steadily scene the Resurrection is what i call a second tier way of healing men bodies,,,. through doctors and the medical community. and the medical community. But even they only know so much...
When one encounters a aliment like Cancer or autism.. and the m,medical community cant do much to help u... one is forced to lay aside what one has come to depend on and go straight to God himself.
Only God at this point can cure autism. There are people that give testimony that they have had kids that have been... But the " world " in general and certainly a horde of atheists probably are not hearing about them..
I do believe and accept Ben is healed of autism.... but i don't deny he shows symptoms... i don't deny that he still to the person who does not understand biblical faith he may act autistic. But i believe in the true biblical faith the way its suppose to work ( and Jesus taught his disciples how it worked ,, Does anyone of you recall or even know anything about the how and why Jesus on the way to Jerusalem cursed a fig tree?Anyway it was a teachable moment of his followers and us about what REAL bible faith really is)). Thus based on Gods word,,,, By faith Ben is healed!.... and I am now seeing after years of praying and confessing this .... speaking Gods word over my son( which God calls blessings) the results. arew being now seen.... Not all i one fell swoop,,,, but in small but obvious allotments.... and the day is here and upon us a day Chosen By God that it all will " click" and words will come out and then from there...... it will jump to extreme heights as to what he is fixing and in the process of learning!
Of course the classes Ben has helped him... they taught him some sign language,,, how to deal with and intermingle with others ,,taught him routine and structure and have helped him get used to the idea of numbers and letters that will be used as a stepping stone when he is ready to read.His years in school have not been in vein and i believe Jesus wont aloe what the teachers have sought to teach him will go wasted. I wont refuse the appreciation of their efforts and time
But the healing..... the deep inner part of his brain cant be fixed by men, teachers , teaching methods,,, ect,, but only the creator himself ...and it has been made possible.Only Jesus can bring Real peace and calm to Ben when hes upset and in a screaming fit ( which are getting rare anymore)and nothing else will help him but prayer to God in the name of Jesus Christ and playing beautiful worshipful Christian music... which has PROVED over and over to calm him and he has shown clearly he enjoys.
U will say then why do so many people die or never get healing?? Mainly because this kind of sound biblical faith does not work on auto pilot. It must be preached ( it is but many call it hearsay and the preachers that do are called heretics even among other Christians" ) or people will only operate part of the principles that faith works by.There are certain rules that this kind of miracle faith works with.,,,
We are speaking of the kind of faith that God used to create the world,,,, this is REAL faith and sadly even Christians don't know of it or cant or don't know how to operate in it.
Ill give u a few of the major reasons people even though they may honorably try to walk in this faith don't receive,,it may be because of.
1.Unforgiving. Any root of bitterness or hate in any way will obstruct a miracle from coming to pass)
2.Generational sin( those at deliverance ministry teach about this but u wont understand it all if u read only the message boards...This part is hard to accept even among many faithful Christians it will be hard to accept .. but its about the sins of our ancestors not only being repeated in future generations but the 'CURSE' of that sin. For sin brings a curse. Deliverance ministry has been only in the last few years starting to make it back into the minds of mainstream fundamentalist thought.WE have alwayes belived in divine healing and ythat faith was essentila and yes we belive in casting out demons.... but there has been a rift in the christian community abourt Deliveraance because many leaders and teacvhers said christians could not have a demon inside them .... and thier problems didnt need deliverance minsitry which had become overly associated with excorisms. Casting out demions is a Part of Deliverance ministry but there is more to it then that. THis wasent understood by me as a yoiung christian and i never heard it taught much.... Now with Forums like D.M and others the misunderstandings are benign cleared up and deliverance is started to be seen as a much less scary encounter. I have deliverance sessions via phone and they are a beautiful supernatural experiences with God .IT has not for me been a scene from the exorcists. I am the one going through it anyhow,,,,, Not Ben. Its , private and i wont go into details but it involves deep prayer seeking the Lord... and hearing him with a counselor along with you and sometimes another prayer the whys of certain things and what the Lord would have us to do.. Its worked for me as a almost a year im like a different woman....It deals with this with this mysterious spiritual law that involves the sin and curse of that sin being in inherited by people from their families. Even doctors and educators will tell u that tings like alcoholism,,, or a div-ate behavior,,,or even poverty seem to be passed down generation-ally. Another reason for delayed or a healing that never manifests.Anyhow...
3. vacillation.
God says u cant say" im healed today " then to,morrow have a bad day and deny the healing" One must be consistent , Faith is first ...believing and SAYING what one believes and if u go back and forth in between doubt and faith ,,, u cant receive the miracle u desire..

IN some cases people have been healed on other ways by consistent prayer chains around a person or acting on a the advise given by the last Apostle called Paul. He said if there be any sick among u? Let the elders of the church lay hands on him anointing him with oil and he would be healed"( those words are not verbatim) but again Paul said this i suspect in a culture where real biblical faith w as understood , regularity taught and acted on so faith was strong. That has been two thousand years ago and except in a revival or a isolated place,, this kind of miracle working faith has been lost., or seemingly hidden,, or rejected. .
Did u know that even Jesus himself went into a village and was not able to heal anyone except some sickly people ( probably had colds or a fervor ) Because THEY HAD NO FAITH!
Anyway.... i know this may sound very confusing to u . We are told that Christians will say the cross and what it means is foolishness to them and they will call us foolish. It also says the spiritually dead cant receive the things of God ... so actually tease responses don't really surprise me ,.. we were warned in he bible we would get tease reactions.I know the state most are in here will laugh and roll their eyes and not really understand but im explaining it to so u will see what many of us do believe... and though u may reject it will have a idea why we say the things we say and and do the things we do....

I just wanted u to know that when u go into forum such as DM... we are talking among ourselves. WE know each other and what sounds like one thing to u is not to us.Its lingo... "Christianize"... Christians among Christians talking among our own.

M sorry my spelling is bad. I write and sound off my words and go by how a word sounds which i know does not always work but its been a habit of mine and i also type fast and many typos are because of that. I'm not as dumb as the typos make me sound. I have started to use spell check on the internet the the last few months. I'm not sure why i d dint before... but i didn't and my spelling and punctuation were dismal. But im trying to improve
I was not a good student and didn't pay attention...I think they call if ADD now. but as i see Ben through the eyes of faith as healed,, and 100% well... im going to to try to to relearn things i didn't do well in school such as spelling and math., with faith God can and will retrain me.. My Faith in Gods ability and his ability through me and his willingness to help me has soared and i believe if a apply myself i can relearn what i missed out and three years will be spelling almost flawlessly.. and math will become a game of fun., it will be so easy.!
Actually i have a grandfather long in my community when he was alive was considered a math genius.!

I have tried to talk to u as woman to woman as human BEING TO HUMAN BEING....I hope though u may still not believe in God and cant fathom why a truly intelligent person would,,,and still cant make heads or tails out of what I HAVE SINCERELY TRIED TO SHARE,,i will see me not as some crazy Funide that is being used as a humiliation pejorative,,,,,but as a woman that has found The true God and chosen another path then You and your friends at this forum. I was a rebellious... person once to who rejected God and wanted to only do my thing.... and searched for fulfillment in other ways but came back to the truth i grew up with., because it made me happy and i couldn't get away from knowing deep inside that Jesus Christ really is the son Of God who had died fro me and that he had risen from a tomb alive. He could come into my living room right now of even yours or anyone's if he chose,, human flesh.... and bone because he is not dead... He access to any p;ace he chooses to go....as he given to him by his father is Lord over all...
I have witnessed miracles in my sons lifer because of the name of Jesus Christ. I won't deny him.

i know i have said alot,,,more then u were wanting to know and to be truthful with a ear infection id rather be doing something else right now but there just was to much misinformation and wild beliefs running amok about me on open internet and the time to try to correct think i think has been worth it.I realize much on this thread i said elsewhere because u were one of the few that replied to me and it was here. I'm not sure if
U with u and others continue to troll about on D.M and see more of my ' weird funide comments" try to restrain yourself from anymore over the top right out of the bucket assumption.... if u want to know simply post her and say'' OK jewels this sounds wierd can u explain"?Or take it that u have enough from me personally and just let it be?
AS for the bathroom quote. I know its sophomoric and some people of that level cant stop themselves from saying something ridiculousness when a bathroom is mentioned.

Al li can say that for a long wile for so,me reason when Ben would shower he would out of nowhere start to scream and hit himself; and getting him out was hard as he would strike out.It was scary as he seemed upset and just in another world.Or would come out of nowhere.
Because i believe in a supernatural God i believe in supernatural answers., as their was no normal explanations presenting themselves here...
A woman of faith involved in a another deliverance ministry that has no association with jay.... prayed and she is spiritually sensitive., gifted by Jesus himself .
For some reason on apart of out land which included one walled section that involved two rooms including the bathroom she did sense as if she was in another dimension. Something was not right and she believed that a spirit beings were coming and going . Maybe Ben was seeing them or was sensitive to them ...i don't know.,., but something was really upsetting him. I'm not sure where they came from... they could have been here for thousands of years . But demons are supernatural beings and come and go at a fast rate and can gain rights to homes. and land through sinful activities or people giving the spirits a particular piece of land...The bathroom just happened to be built over a particular piece of land that some how someway had come under the influence of strange unseen influences....
All i can tell u i after intense prayer and having communion outside near one of the walls.. those mystery tantrums stopped,. I don't think he has had one scene wile showing and if he did they were probably so ,mild i cant recall them now.This has been maybe 8 weeks ago,. Now this is not a coincidence.... Ben is back taking his showers getting out and .... no probkem.
I'm telling the truth. Holy Communion is a powerful and scared element and God honored out prayers and closed whatever portal had been opened long before i was probably even alive. Jesus chose to intervene and answered us with what to do and it worked.I believe he also showed me the black hole portal or supernatural entrance way i had painted on my door unknowing making the situation worse. and yes,, i believe one can open up portals and or know it., because i did and no clue what i was doing when i did it.
Anyone reading this can scoff all i want but im not making this up.I'm not imagining it,,, It happened and hats the truth.
I live a supernatural live with a supernatural Jesus who according to the bible./ Came to destroy the works of the devil".....

I have seen miracles occur in the life of this precious sweet boy who is changing more and more and i know.,, I KNOW that its because Jesus loves Ben and has through my asking and many prayers has become involved in Bens situation and has declared a remedy for each thing that comes up and has been faithful to pull Ben through every time.

In the meantime because its the LAW and because Ben enjoys it and I believe that God uses the teachers to a certain degree i am sending him to school... gladly as with many moms it provides us with a break!The teachers themselves are secular in a normal school. They don't teach him religion nor would i want them to... But God can use a person and that person be clueless!

AS for the toys thing.. ill keep this simple. We have toys. Lots of them/ Ben does not lack what he wants.. I was talking about toys of the occult and magic..... which no i don't allow into my home but i doubt most atheists in here would allow a nice Child's bible in their home or a JESUS video
That statement a bout the toys was poorly written even for me and i will go back and rewrite it. It was about our belief that certain things in a home associated with pagan religions and the occult ( seeking knowledge and contact with the spirit world outside of God) is dangerous. It was not about the average every day toys....
The doll i complained about? It was a bought at a yard dale so had no knowledge of it talking. Anyhow i may be a prude but i know ' 'Whop pi" is slang' F" and found it lacking in good taste and stupid. They could have given the doll a nicer cheer then that so i have to wonder about the agenda or even the value system of people that would put that in a doll to say. " Whop pi"is snot a word u want your three year old going around saying...
OK... Brain in a Jar ... do well in Life... and enjoy the cooing Autumn seasons.

Kirk i doubt u read those posts about me or my answers.... u may have drowsily leaped through them here and there ,,but did u read every word? Please Dont go back to the ' spelling" thing as i used spell check and most of my post came up reasonably well. Anyhow when one has a ear infection and has much to say its very hard to come up with a no typos at all paragraphs as it takes to long and i do need to sleep. cant come up with no typos at all..
Sorry "Kirk" u think that way. But what i have painstaking tried to convey this through letters on a key board what i have wrote is my deep inner belief. Calling names because i don't see things from your viewpoint is not going to help me or you or our sons. Hate or even disdain which is a form of hate never helps anyone in the end.
I said i took my son to a doctor and sent him to a qualified school, everything society expects of me and have reassured those on here that that Ben is deeply loved and well cared for., and has all we can afford to give him a swimming pool, a trampoline,, gate yard.... a room with a TV and a three cd player.. all gifts and made possible to be obtained one way or another by God as we are not ' wealthy " people.Ben has enough love for him and attention to make the earth shake its so deep fro,k hos parents,,, Christiane friends that are probably all around the world now,,, and grandmother and sisters and teachers, but because of ''what" I believe in healing and God im a twit? Should i laugh?
I obey the Law and work with his teachers and abide by the accepted customs of my nation such as using educations and medicine to help our kids..but it seems in this nation so free and so open to many ideas that among people who would think of them selves as open minded and believing in freedom that is not enough or even right at all anymore.World war 2 was fought and won over 50 years ago and already i see fascists and conformist anti religious thinking creeping back into mainstream societies where good hear ted people who mean no harm and obey existing laws are slowly Little by little becoming outsiders and''may i borrow your word a "Twit"

I refuse to deny my faith. Ben is healed. Ben is well.. Ben is loved and one day... as The God i know sees fit the world will hear about it. Maybe at the water cooler at work... or as people ride the bus to work... or read a small article in a newspaper. the subject will come up they or you or someone you know reads a story about a boy who never spoke for 13 ,, 14 may bey even 15 1or 16 years and then just got up and spoke. in perfect sentences. Perhaps will make on the news... as a feel good story ,,, or a in a discussion group in on line medical community.... and maybe ..just perhaps some here will scratch their heads and say this sounds familiar that name.... and u will wonder about for days trying to recall where this and how the story or "rumor" sounds so familiar?.Sound far fetched? How many here watch Star Wars here or Star Trek and still a little bit of u wonders.... as u look out pt the stars at night in a quite reflective moment,. if those stories maybe true somewhere in a distant galaxy. I don't watch those movies anymore or even for a second believe them to be even remotely possible.. but i do believe in a Creator God who heals.
Please Stop the name calling and have a real debate if that's what u want. I don't mind that. I have debated people so mean it could make ones hair curl., so i have some understanding what comes with solid nonbelievers and those openly hostile to Christians... i have been through these cyber storms before and know how to batten down metaphorical hatches. I have been called names,.,, threatened... cyber bullied up to my hair line and not just here.... i wearied with the meanness at me .. my bad spelling and America and conservatism , President Bush after 9/11and just for the most part left the open internet for safer ground, from places like this to hopefully greener pastures.I found those place which are her and there and not just D.M and the mods were quick on their feet and kept out trouble makers and those would seek to harass us....and low and behold the atheists and undeliverable found me anyhow! I took awhile but i feel like i have been finked out as if i was in some witness protection program ( which im not,,trying to use a little humor here i ask u to oblige)
I don't mind talking,,, and having a good old fashioned heated debate.... make our points ...pound our chests and cyber tables then shake hands and move on.....
but except for a few people It seems that even the crooked politicians of world know how to do even that or so i have heard.! i though keep getting served up this sophomoric nonsense name calling... and verbal abuse. Am i in junior high again ( yes go ahead make another remark on my spelling.. get your giggles)
I don't l;Ike to get mean and sarcastic,for as i get closer to our Lord it feels better to live in peace. But its fun debate a case with people... if its done n good fun and with a altitude and recognition of others humanity,,,but i see that cant be done here so in order to have to to survive in the cyber jungle i lived in many years i can get " cheeky, sarcastic, and in your face " with the rest of the Jungle animals.
I say because the posts were long people are not wanting to bother with them and i can see and understands that ,.but if curious minds really want to know they can print what i say out and in a quiet evening when theirs nothing else to do have a cup of tea or coffee and read them as see what im saying in defense of myself, I'm say this to those who just cant understand why i believe int has face of the whats called the impossible i can say my son is healed and still recognize the symptoms and that he needs schooling like other children) and why i believe in a God they and i cant see. But some really enjoy mocking behind peoples back on open internet for the world to see.. probably even rich and famous people about MY life AND MY SONS LIFE AND MAKE RIDICULOUS CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE NOT TRUE THEN HAVE A HARE FEST ON ME,. People who i believe really see themselves as compassionate and intelligent is it right to gossip nice and intellectual to have the facets about that person and what they believe in. The best person to tell u that would the person u are cursing! reread the posts about me..they are everywhere and are enough o make me want to vomit and its at least in part due to the toughness of my early internet debates , and just becoming hardened to those outside of faith in God and know how most act and the Grace of God i haven't broken down. But i haven't broken down.... but went on to win a ribbon in a art contest.... become more involved in a new art club. and have more praying for me about this mess .. all i have is a ear infection that makes one wonder if even printed words dripped in such hate and loathing could make one sick if the feelings of the other was powerful enough!
The Gospels s warned us that mere men who have no love or knowledge of God would have no understanding of God and his word and that we and the Gospel would be as foolishness to them so u have' kick: fulfilled the word of God by calling me a twit., which is close if not down right calling me a fool.
The bible;e also warned us not to cast our pearls before swine , Meaning swine have no appreciation for a pearl or the love of the person who put it before them as they are beasts in their nature., and cant see the beauty and preciousness of a glistening pearl or the humanity of the person who stupidly put the pearl before them. Jesus said that if we worldly do this the ' swine;'would turn around and rend us ) IN only saying whats been said in the bible and what Jesus said. He warned me.Kirk and others have proved the bible right!
Also Jesus said if they have hated me they will hate u who follow me.

Nevertheless knowing this i still had childlike hope some fairness would rise in the hears of few here here and we could have a open ,,,civil debate or discussion...and if u have real questions what bother u about Christianity and want to know why we believe this or that or why i posted this or that u have your chance now to do it in a decent mannerly way. But i see where the river is flowing on this one.Its not to candy land that's for sure.
Yes,, i have been harsh to,,, but but that's because i have learned with many of atheistic beliefs can be extremely hateful anyone who believes in Jesus Christ let alone God ..its sometimes easier to loose the fluffy language and just ' say it as it is" and be blunt but even when i have done this i have tried to kindly also.I ddi not want to make a enemy but show people i was and am not a person who could be attacked like this and not HAVE A A ABILITY TO DEFEND MYSELF EITHER THROUGH GOOD DISCUSSION OR OPENING MYSELF UP SOME AND EXPLAINING HAT WAS NEVER MEANT FOR U ANY HOW. As those posts were written to Christians who knew what i was talking about and were private and were never meant for scoffers eyes to see.
I realize the long posts i put here were very long. But i had a lot thrown at me and swarm of people saying things way out of whack about me and what i believe and so it took time to write a decent rebuttal out and that with a inner ear infection. I would rather be talking to my friends or taking the pain pill my doctor prescribed for me and go to asleep then have to battle this every night.

So " kick" i take it u think what i have said in response to the slander and lies that im a twit anyhow and if u did int bother to read it all,,, giving me fair shake im a " twit no matter what.... so with u im not going to win., no matter what i say...

I'm sorry your sons are autistic but im not your enemy. I have as a mother who loves her little boy endured with a breaking heart through the symptoms and the sufferings that these sweet children go through more then you will ever know on this earth. Things were so bad once in communication with Ben and him seemingly being hidden away in that hidden world people call autism to the point the only way i got any real help when people confident help anymore was on the floor my heart crying out to GOD Almighty and His Son Jesus Christ I then found miracles.... I'm sorry if that annoys you and others but its true. My son though still not talking yet,,,, and still learning and catching up to what he should have learned a very long time ago,,, is starting to do things i had begun to doubt he ever would.
Three years ago a mother u say is a twit was crying and ready to fall apiece with a broken heart when despite sending her son to a good school , even in part of the summer ( which i advise one should ) and going to a doctior9 who said he couldn't do anything for him ut maybe send him to a place and put him on psychiatric drugs to calm him)) after a bad time with him where he had mysterious screaming fits,,, and was depressed... and was drawing back i was wondering if Ben was going to have to be institutionalized which filled my heart with fear and dread.
But me and other Christians ( school was out and the doctor dding know what was wrong)crying out to a man they say is dead.. but we know he is not dead...and not relenting.... and crying to him and his father who is God. the creator.... the creator of heaven and earth,, and asking, knocking, and praying and not giving up....( this was a time of intense dreaming ab out Ben . me and my life and what god had planned fore Ben) God heard me in Sept of 2007,,,, and its been getting better and Better! The change almost over night was a miracle. I near a nervous break down ( what mom who wants her son happy wouldn't have one or be close to one?) said they saw Ben CRY at school. Not the whinnying and wailing but real tears and emotion that most children express. T His is RARE!!! Its has if Ben picked up and knew mommy was sad,,, and that meant he was not disconnected and so alone in a world where i didn't exist. He was just having a bad time and God knew why and started to fix the problem. When i came home Ben was back to normal NO problems came back for about three month's. Then it was little different adn i continue ed to seek God and pray and then in June of 2008 God sent me to D.M in which most mock. They taught me about deliverance ministry,,, and the need for it and finally sought out a place in California that believes in it, I am the one that receives the ministry and its private and wont t show anymore of pearls,,but its about prayer,,seeking God,,,,, applying biblical principals to a situation.. forgiving people and asking God about things of the past even int he womb that could have caused problems. People in Deliverance ministry are gifted By God an are Christians 100% not psychics. and can at times know things that are helpful tot healing of the whole family. Now scene then almost a year later Life is Good! Ben has Changed so Much! He is happy,,laughing playing AND ENJOYING LIFE AGAIN. THE FITS OF SCREAMING ARE VERY RARE ANYMORE( he used to have them at school also) AND HE IS SHOWING LOVE AND AFFECTION and even i sometimes can hear what sounds like vowels coming through and almost making it to his lips./ I'm thankful to his teachers which nearly have the patience of Job and do the best they can and i indeed believe they have helped him.. but it on the even of was summer break when Ben started to go through this strange time around June and got worse at the height of Sept .. through his rough time and even after going back to school they could only do so much....
But today after deliverance therapy by the hand of God through the ministry of Jesus Christ,,, has changed our life. No exorcisms have been preformed,,, so lets get that out of the way... ..... the sessions have been me and a lady who works with a qualified respected ministry ( NOT associated with Jay, though both ministries believe in deliverance and healing through Jesus Christ.) Now , Each new day can b e exciting as i wonder whats going to happen today..Today may be the day he will talk!U can laugh but im the one that sees the fast and marvelous changes and others who live among us see it to. Jesus loves those called autistic and healed them two thousand years ago when he was beaten and is held in heaven for those who will be persistent stubborn and believe! I CHOOSE TO BELIEVED!
I in a nation based on freedom of faith and now called a twit because i found a miracle in the name of Jesus and simply refuse to recant?
W hos the real ' twit"? Lets God judge that.
Anyway... i wish we could be friends as i know so much about what its like to have a child put on the spectrum and be and act a little different then others.I have a brother who was very different and odd and who today would be probably called Asperghers..
I'm not your enemy Kirk
anyway... Good will to u nay how.
Cl Own... i know u probably think im a twit to but at least u gave me a small cup of water in this parched wasteland of what FEELS TO ME OF HATE.
I explained the best i could those posts that were completely misconstrued and have been used to put a mom who loves her children more then anything on this earth, to be insulted put ' on trial" among yourselves.... without a way to defend my honor. Funny how i just out of nowhere found this site..... but im getting to the point i im not sure i believe in coincidences anymore.
I wont respond to name calling anymore.....but only questions... and honest..fair discussions,Ill say it again as i have said soooooooooo many times i believe that doctors are good and that education is a must for every child... so im not back woods hick that refuses my kids excellent health care or the best teachers our school system can give them. Jesus Heals the inner brain , teaches what human beings cannot t and calms and brings peace to the human spirit but his teachers and the aids help him and the autistic conform to society and teach him them the ABC.. i think u know what i mean so lets be reasonable. I believe in healing and divine health through Jesus sand believe Ben's got it,,, but i also believe God ordained us to obey our laws and to teach our kids and in our society teaching children what they need to know after a certain age in areas where they can read,,, write ,, have math and reasoning skills, has come through what we call the school system.
If i say something over at my site that's sounds kooky again it would be smart to just post here and ASK Me what i meant.. yes it may require a lengthy response.... but hearing an reading things about myself over and over has been difficult for me( yes i can read very well) for me...

Name calling and further Gossip that cant be proved will be ignored and i will pray for each of you and i willingly forgive as i know deep inside u really don't understand.... and have been brainwashed by the society of this world to think faith is not only ridiculous but almost evil.
I have kids to care for in which i do... and painting to paint and songs to sing and pets to look after... a ear infection to care for.. for i do have a life that contrary to the fundie watch society cant be possible because all fundies are charmless, stupid uneducated dummies who live in shacks,,, read 7th grade romance novels... and wear long denim dresses....and if they are lucky buy their best t vs and computers from cheap thrift shops .........

Jewels shakes her head sadly.... if u really knew me... if u really knew my God....
Peace to all and promise no more comments unless theirs a s sighting of a a intelligent good hear ted question.I know u probably yearn to get rid of me ,,but it wasn't me that posted my name and life on this thread....I have also seen that i seem to one of the few that have repeated posts .... few others that i can see yet have been " chosen to sit on this anti christian anti faith hot seat...
And yes i will be watching for any more threats... i don't think the people who posted them were serious but just in case,,, having them printed asp and my democrat very liberal lawyer who disagrees with me heavily on politics but is a close friend of the family and cares about my welfare.. anyhow says if i want he will have a look/ see over them and then he can have one print and a few other distributed here and there.... so if anything ' weird" happened to me there can be a Possible trail.I stay up long nights and can start this procedure up already,,, I have already had a chat with my lawyer friend.
This is tot he threats to my bodily hurt and the threats against my kids.... im told by some body here wanting to calm me down that was just talk and no one wanted me harmed. this person seemed genuine and i would like to take his word for it but just so u know people have been told about whats been threatened and said on here. I'm not talking about the smart allelic, snotty remarks against my intelligence,. i can take that.... its been the ones that were bordering on breaking the law at the start of this conversation. days ago when i stumbled into this site. Just letting u know i haven't forgotten what was posted and as far as anyone knows may already have printed out the remarks that could have come out of central casting on a bad Halloween movie ,, but were not but real people saying real things..... as it looked dangerous to me and have alerted people....
So lets keep it nice and if u want to confront my "evil" ways of believing in God and that he actually loves and heals people today lets TALK> let's chat. Ask me .questions... be willing to let go of some of ur preconceived notions about a person u have never meant don't know her life or heart and really does not understand faith in God.

I don't say this to be over dramatic and i dot even blame the monitors but in this day and age on the cyber net as there are so-many social path minds and people in the world one must watch our back. God is watching me an d protecting me as i believe in angels....and God pouts good use tot hem. but God put government in place to protect people to.
Clown and even Brain in a Jar though i suspect almost 100% fully disagree with me...have been some what calmer after hearing what i had to say and even a little cool water in a desert is better no water at all.
Would have been fine to have had a cheerful... civil,,, debate on faith verses those who have none and w the whys of it all . I sent that once of the reasons of the internet for people of diverse thought can get together and instead outshouting each other down try to understanding where the other may be coming from and actually enlarge what we want to believe is ones diverse and long suffering of others inner beliefs as long as one does no harm to another? Ben has had no harm to him in my trust in Jesus Christ having healed Ben... all i added to what the earthly society already had provided him and i had ALREADY COMPLIED WITH .....WAS A WILLINGNESS TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE... To wrap this up
In the start of my internet life it did get rough like living in the wild west.. but in the room i started out in about 8 years ago there were equal amount of people who believed in God and didn't though the talk could get rough as people verbally slapped each other silly at times..it was a place that seemed to have a nice coming and goings set of people from both sides of a particular persuasion . But scene then the rooms became more and more one sided and not intent on being fair OR got plain boring and overly censored.. so p i secluded into christian rooms only ..but rem,ember fundie finders,, u pulled me out..... i didn't go looking for this place..

Anyway... i don't think theirs anyone here that wants to talk to me only about me and what they hope and want me to believe so i can be kept in box called" narrow minded christian who refuses to bu her kids toys" and other such nonsense! ..or challenge in a way that preserves the dignity of both sides... so ill have to put up with the bullying.
But not the threats...
If we must keep it at a7th grade level of kicking and calling me names like the good ole days of school and early internet rivalry lets at least have some comfort to know there are some mods nearby to keep at a low ebb?

Anyway... i may very very soon be changing my name or going to another forum/. I love D.M> but was toying a little with the idea some of going away for awhile and sampling some new places before i found this place but i like some privacy and now i have none.... at D.M> and will find other places to go,,,,, ..... but my friends there will be able to contact me if they wish...
I ll just loose myself as im good at,, in the twinkling lights of the cyber universe,,,, like twinkling lights just fly away to a new place....
I'm a artist.. and as campy as it sounds i like to leave a place with a little flourish...
I wish no ill will and will; try to pray for the people on here as i feel it or The Lord brings u to mind,, Kirk i will send up prayers as i think of it for u and your sweet boys,,,sweet boys Kirk. Though i have been made angry like any normal human world over what has been said ii willingly forgive and someday we may find each other again and be the best of friends.I apologies if anyone feels i have truly done them wrong...Forgive me if u feel i have done wrong or been to harsh but i wont deny my faith in MY God and power to heal and the fact he has healed my son and soon someday the world will know story...
Which he will tell.. himself.
Nothing is impossible with God!Yes this unless laws are broken or come close to it which i have faith the mods will keep a good check on it that im not longer threatened or my peace of mind... or unless im invited to a real discussion on faith,,,, this is the last of me.
But as one person told me.. ill be " keeping one eye open"..

Yes Friends... Ben is Healed... and Jesus Is Lord ( has Power and authority over)Autism now and forever!

Jewels #fundie ministeringdeliverance.com

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