Kirk i doubt u read those posts about me or my answers.... u may have drowsily leaped through them here and there ,,but did u read every word? Please Dont go back to the ' spelling" thing as i used spell check and most of my post came up reasonably well. Anyhow when one has a ear infection and has much to say its very hard to come up with a no typos at all paragraphs as it takes to long and i do need to sleep. cant come up with no typos at all..
Sorry "Kirk" u think that way. But what i have painstaking tried to convey this through letters on a key board what i have wrote is my deep inner belief. Calling names because i don't see things from your viewpoint is not going to help me or you or our sons. Hate or even disdain which is a form of hate never helps anyone in the end.
I said i took my son to a doctor and sent him to a qualified school, everything society expects of me and have reassured those on here that that Ben is deeply loved and well cared for., and has all we can afford to give him a swimming pool, a trampoline,, gate yard.... a room with a TV and a three cd player.. all gifts and made possible to be obtained one way or another by God as we are not ' wealthy " people.Ben has enough love for him and attention to make the earth shake its so deep fro,k hos parents,,, Christiane friends that are probably all around the world now,,, and grandmother and sisters and teachers, but because of ''what" I believe in healing and God im a twit? Should i laugh?
I obey the Law and work with his teachers and abide by the accepted customs of my nation such as using educations and medicine to help our kids..but it seems in this nation so free and so open to many ideas that among people who would think of them selves as open minded and believing in freedom that is not enough or even right at all anymore.World war 2 was fought and won over 50 years ago and already i see fascists and conformist anti religious thinking creeping back into mainstream societies where good hear ted people who mean no harm and obey existing laws are slowly Little by little becoming outsiders and''may i borrow your word a "Twit"
I refuse to deny my faith. Ben is healed. Ben is well.. Ben is loved and one day... as The God i know sees fit the world will hear about it. Maybe at the water cooler at work... or as people ride the bus to work... or read a small article in a newspaper. the subject will come up they or you or someone you know reads a story about a boy who never spoke for 13 ,, 14 may bey even 15 1or 16 years and then just got up and spoke. in perfect sentences. Perhaps will make on the news... as a feel good story ,,, or a in a discussion group in on line medical community.... and maybe ..just perhaps some here will scratch their heads and say this sounds familiar that name.... and u will wonder about for days trying to recall where this and how the story or "rumor" sounds so familiar?.Sound far fetched? How many here watch Star Wars here or Star Trek and still a little bit of u wonders.... as u look out pt the stars at night in a quite reflective moment,. if those stories maybe true somewhere in a distant galaxy. I don't watch those movies anymore or even for a second believe them to be even remotely possible.. but i do believe in a Creator God who heals.
Please Stop the name calling and have a real debate if that's what u want. I don't mind that. I have debated people so mean it could make ones hair curl., so i have some understanding what comes with solid nonbelievers and those openly hostile to Christians... i have been through these cyber storms before and know how to batten down metaphorical hatches. I have been called names,.,, threatened... cyber bullied up to my hair line and not just here.... i wearied with the meanness at me .. my bad spelling and America and conservatism , President Bush after 9/11and just for the most part left the open internet for safer ground, from places like this to hopefully greener pastures.I found those place which are her and there and not just D.M and the mods were quick on their feet and kept out trouble makers and those would seek to harass us....and low and behold the atheists and undeliverable found me anyhow! I took awhile but i feel like i have been finked out as if i was in some witness protection program ( which im not,,trying to use a little humor here i ask u to oblige)
I don't mind talking,,, and having a good old fashioned heated debate.... make our points ...pound our chests and cyber tables then shake hands and move on.....
but except for a few people It seems that even the crooked politicians of world know how to do even that or so i have heard.! i though keep getting served up this sophomoric nonsense name calling... and verbal abuse. Am i in junior high again ( yes go ahead make another remark on my spelling.. get your giggles)
I don't l;Ike to get mean and sarcastic,for as i get closer to our Lord it feels better to live in peace. But its fun debate a case with people... if its done n good fun and with a altitude and recognition of others humanity,,,but i see that cant be done here so in order to have to to survive in the cyber jungle i lived in many years i can get " cheeky, sarcastic, and in your face " with the rest of the Jungle animals.
I say because the posts were long people are not wanting to bother with them and i can see and understands that ,.but if curious minds really want to know they can print what i say out and in a quiet evening when theirs nothing else to do have a cup of tea or coffee and read them as see what im saying in defense of myself, I'm say this to those who just cant understand why i believe int has face of the whats called the impossible i can say my son is healed and still recognize the symptoms and that he needs schooling like other children) and why i believe in a God they and i cant see. But some really enjoy mocking behind peoples back on open internet for the world to see.. probably even rich and famous people about MY life AND MY SONS LIFE AND MAKE RIDICULOUS CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE NOT TRUE THEN HAVE A HARE FEST ON ME,. People who i believe really see themselves as compassionate and intelligent is it right to gossip nice and intellectual to have the facets about that person and what they believe in. The best person to tell u that would the person u are cursing! reread the posts about me..they are everywhere and are enough o make me want to vomit and its at least in part due to the toughness of my early internet debates , and just becoming hardened to those outside of faith in God and know how most act and the Grace of God i haven't broken down. But i haven't broken down.... but went on to win a ribbon in a art contest.... become more involved in a new art club. and have more praying for me about this mess .. all i have is a ear infection that makes one wonder if even printed words dripped in such hate and loathing could make one sick if the feelings of the other was powerful enough!
The Gospels s warned us that mere men who have no love or knowledge of God would have no understanding of God and his word and that we and the Gospel would be as foolishness to them so u have' kick: fulfilled the word of God by calling me a twit., which is close if not down right calling me a fool.
The bible;e also warned us not to cast our pearls before swine , Meaning swine have no appreciation for a pearl or the love of the person who put it before them as they are beasts in their nature., and cant see the beauty and preciousness of a glistening pearl or the humanity of the person who stupidly put the pearl before them. Jesus said that if we worldly do this the ' swine;'would turn around and rend us ) IN only saying whats been said in the bible and what Jesus said. He warned me.Kirk and others have proved the bible right!
Also Jesus said if they have hated me they will hate u who follow me.
Nevertheless knowing this i still had childlike hope some fairness would rise in the hears of few here here and we could have a open ,,,civil debate or discussion...and if u have real questions what bother u about Christianity and want to know why we believe this or that or why i posted this or that u have your chance now to do it in a decent mannerly way. But i see where the river is flowing on this one.Its not to candy land that's for sure.
Yes,, i have been harsh to,,, but but that's because i have learned with many of atheistic beliefs can be extremely hateful anyone who believes in Jesus Christ let alone God ..its sometimes easier to loose the fluffy language and just ' say it as it is" and be blunt but even when i have done this i have tried to kindly also.I ddi not want to make a enemy but show people i was and am not a person who could be attacked like this and not HAVE A A ABILITY TO DEFEND MYSELF EITHER THROUGH GOOD DISCUSSION OR OPENING MYSELF UP SOME AND EXPLAINING HAT WAS NEVER MEANT FOR U ANY HOW. As those posts were written to Christians who knew what i was talking about and were private and were never meant for scoffers eyes to see.
I realize the long posts i put here were very long. But i had a lot thrown at me and swarm of people saying things way out of whack about me and what i believe and so it took time to write a decent rebuttal out and that with a inner ear infection. I would rather be talking to my friends or taking the pain pill my doctor prescribed for me and go to asleep then have to battle this every night.
So " kick" i take it u think what i have said in response to the slander and lies that im a twit anyhow and if u did int bother to read it all,,, giving me fair shake im a " twit no matter what.... so with u im not going to win., no matter what i say...
I'm sorry your sons are autistic but im not your enemy. I have as a mother who loves her little boy endured with a breaking heart through the symptoms and the sufferings that these sweet children go through more then you will ever know on this earth. Things were so bad once in communication with Ben and him seemingly being hidden away in that hidden world people call autism to the point the only way i got any real help when people confident help anymore was on the floor my heart crying out to GOD Almighty and His Son Jesus Christ I then found miracles.... I'm sorry if that annoys you and others but its true. My son though still not talking yet,,,, and still learning and catching up to what he should have learned a very long time ago,,, is starting to do things i had begun to doubt he ever would.
Three years ago a mother u say is a twit was crying and ready to fall apiece with a broken heart when despite sending her son to a good school , even in part of the summer ( which i advise one should ) and going to a doctior9 who said he couldn't do anything for him ut maybe send him to a place and put him on psychiatric drugs to calm him)) after a bad time with him where he had mysterious screaming fits,,, and was depressed... and was drawing back i was wondering if Ben was going to have to be institutionalized which filled my heart with fear and dread.
But me and other Christians ( school was out and the doctor dding know what was wrong)crying out to a man they say is dead.. but we know he is not dead...and not relenting.... and crying to him and his father who is God. the creator.... the creator of heaven and earth,, and asking, knocking, and praying and not giving up....( this was a time of intense dreaming ab out Ben . me and my life and what god had planned fore Ben) God heard me in Sept of 2007,,,, and its been getting better and Better! The change almost over night was a miracle. I near a nervous break down ( what mom who wants her son happy wouldn't have one or be close to one?) said they saw Ben CRY at school. Not the whinnying and wailing but real tears and emotion that most children express. T His is RARE!!! Its has if Ben picked up and knew mommy was sad,,, and that meant he was not disconnected and so alone in a world where i didn't exist. He was just having a bad time and God knew why and started to fix the problem. When i came home Ben was back to normal NO problems came back for about three month's. Then it was little different adn i continue ed to seek God and pray and then in June of 2008 God sent me to D.M in which most mock. They taught me about deliverance ministry,,, and the need for it and finally sought out a place in California that believes in it, I am the one that receives the ministry and its private and wont t show anymore of pearls,,but its about prayer,,seeking God,,,,, applying biblical principals to a situation.. forgiving people and asking God about things of the past even int he womb that could have caused problems. People in Deliverance ministry are gifted By God an are Christians 100% not psychics. and can at times know things that are helpful tot healing of the whole family. Now scene then almost a year later Life is Good! Ben has Changed so Much! He is happy,,laughing playing AND ENJOYING LIFE AGAIN. THE FITS OF SCREAMING ARE VERY RARE ANYMORE( he used to have them at school also) AND HE IS SHOWING LOVE AND AFFECTION and even i sometimes can hear what sounds like vowels coming through and almost making it to his lips./ I'm thankful to his teachers which nearly have the patience of Job and do the best they can and i indeed believe they have helped him.. but it on the even of was summer break when Ben started to go through this strange time around June and got worse at the height of Sept .. through his rough time and even after going back to school they could only do so much....
But today after deliverance therapy by the hand of God through the ministry of Jesus Christ,,, has changed our life. No exorcisms have been preformed,,, so lets get that out of the way... ..... the sessions have been me and a lady who works with a qualified respected ministry ( NOT associated with Jay, though both ministries believe in deliverance and healing through Jesus Christ.) Now , Each new day can b e exciting as i wonder whats going to happen today..Today may be the day he will talk!U can laugh but im the one that sees the fast and marvelous changes and others who live among us see it to. Jesus loves those called autistic and healed them two thousand years ago when he was beaten and is held in heaven for those who will be persistent stubborn and believe! I CHOOSE TO BELIEVED!
I in a nation based on freedom of faith and now called a twit because i found a miracle in the name of Jesus and simply refuse to recant?
W hos the real ' twit"? Lets God judge that.
Anyway... i wish we could be friends as i know so much about what its like to have a child put on the spectrum and be and act a little different then others.I have a brother who was very different and odd and who today would be probably called Asperghers..
I'm not your enemy Kirk
anyway... Good will to u nay how.
Cl Own... i know u probably think im a twit to but at least u gave me a small cup of water in this parched wasteland of what FEELS TO ME OF HATE.
I explained the best i could those posts that were completely misconstrued and have been used to put a mom who loves her children more then anything on this earth, to be insulted put ' on trial" among yourselves.... without a way to defend my honor. Funny how i just out of nowhere found this site..... but im getting to the point i im not sure i believe in coincidences anymore.
I wont respond to name calling anymore.....but only questions... and honest..fair discussions,Ill say it again as i have said soooooooooo many times i believe that doctors are good and that education is a must for every child... so im not back woods hick that refuses my kids excellent health care or the best teachers our school system can give them. Jesus Heals the inner brain , teaches what human beings cannot t and calms and brings peace to the human spirit but his teachers and the aids help him and the autistic conform to society and teach him them the ABC.. i think u know what i mean so lets be reasonable. I believe in healing and divine health through Jesus sand believe Ben's got it,,, but i also believe God ordained us to obey our laws and to teach our kids and in our society teaching children what they need to know after a certain age in areas where they can read,,, write ,, have math and reasoning skills, has come through what we call the school system.
If i say something over at my site that's sounds kooky again it would be smart to just post here and ASK Me what i meant.. yes it may require a lengthy response.... but hearing an reading things about myself over and over has been difficult for me( yes i can read very well) for me...
Name calling and further Gossip that cant be proved will be ignored and i will pray for each of you and i willingly forgive as i know deep inside u really don't understand.... and have been brainwashed by the society of this world to think faith is not only ridiculous but almost evil.
I have kids to care for in which i do... and painting to paint and songs to sing and pets to look after... a ear infection to care for.. for i do have a life that contrary to the fundie watch society cant be possible because all fundies are charmless, stupid uneducated dummies who live in shacks,,, read 7th grade romance novels... and wear long denim dresses....and if they are lucky buy their best t vs and computers from cheap thrift shops .........
Jewels shakes her head sadly.... if u really knew me... if u really knew my God....
Peace to all and promise no more comments unless theirs a s sighting of a a intelligent good hear ted question.I know u probably yearn to get rid of me ,,but it wasn't me that posted my name and life on this thread....I have also seen that i seem to one of the few that have repeated posts .... few others that i can see yet have been " chosen to sit on this anti christian anti faith hot seat...
And yes i will be watching for any more threats... i don't think the people who posted them were serious but just in case,,, having them printed asp and my democrat very liberal lawyer who disagrees with me heavily on politics but is a close friend of the family and cares about my welfare.. anyhow says if i want he will have a look/ see over them and then he can have one print and a few other distributed here and there.... so if anything ' weird" happened to me there can be a Possible trail.I stay up long nights and can start this procedure up already,,, I have already had a chat with my lawyer friend.
This is tot he threats to my bodily hurt and the threats against my kids.... im told by some body here wanting to calm me down that was just talk and no one wanted me harmed. this person seemed genuine and i would like to take his word for it but just so u know people have been told about whats been threatened and said on here. I'm not talking about the smart allelic, snotty remarks against my intelligence,. i can take that.... its been the ones that were bordering on breaking the law at the start of this conversation. days ago when i stumbled into this site. Just letting u know i haven't forgotten what was posted and as far as anyone knows may already have printed out the remarks that could have come out of central casting on a bad Halloween movie ,, but were not but real people saying real things..... as it looked dangerous to me and have alerted people....
So lets keep it nice and if u want to confront my "evil" ways of believing in God and that he actually loves and heals people today lets TALK> let's chat. Ask me .questions... be willing to let go of some of ur preconceived notions about a person u have never meant don't know her life or heart and really does not understand faith in God.
I don't say this to be over dramatic and i dot even blame the monitors but in this day and age on the cyber net as there are so-many social path minds and people in the world one must watch our back. God is watching me an d protecting me as i believe in angels....and God pouts good use tot hem. but God put government in place to protect people to.
Clown and even Brain in a Jar though i suspect almost 100% fully disagree with me...have been some what calmer after hearing what i had to say and even a little cool water in a desert is better no water at all.
Would have been fine to have had a cheerful... civil,,, debate on faith verses those who have none and w the whys of it all . I sent that once of the reasons of the internet for people of diverse thought can get together and instead outshouting each other down try to understanding where the other may be coming from and actually enlarge what we want to believe is ones diverse and long suffering of others inner beliefs as long as one does no harm to another? Ben has had no harm to him in my trust in Jesus Christ having healed Ben... all i added to what the earthly society already had provided him and i had ALREADY COMPLIED WITH .....WAS A WILLINGNESS TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE... To wrap this up
In the start of my internet life it did get rough like living in the wild west.. but in the room i started out in about 8 years ago there were equal amount of people who believed in God and didn't though the talk could get rough as people verbally slapped each other silly at times..it was a place that seemed to have a nice coming and goings set of people from both sides of a particular persuasion . But scene then the rooms became more and more one sided and not intent on being fair OR got plain boring and overly censored.. so p i secluded into christian rooms only ..but rem,ember fundie finders,, u pulled me out..... i didn't go looking for this place..
Anyway... i don't think theirs anyone here that wants to talk to me only about me and what they hope and want me to believe so i can be kept in box called" narrow minded christian who refuses to bu her kids toys" and other such nonsense! ..or challenge in a way that preserves the dignity of both sides... so ill have to put up with the bullying.
But not the threats...
If we must keep it at a7th grade level of kicking and calling me names like the good ole days of school and early internet rivalry lets at least have some comfort to know there are some mods nearby to keep at a low ebb?
Anyway... i may very very soon be changing my name or going to another forum/. I love D.M> but was toying a little with the idea some of going away for awhile and sampling some new places before i found this place but i like some privacy and now i have none.... at D.M> and will find other places to go,,,,, ..... but my friends there will be able to contact me if they wish...
I ll just loose myself as im good at,, in the twinkling lights of the cyber universe,,,, like twinkling lights just fly away to a new place....
I'm a artist.. and as campy as it sounds i like to leave a place with a little flourish...
I wish no ill will and will; try to pray for the people on here as i feel it or The Lord brings u to mind,, Kirk i will send up prayers as i think of it for u and your sweet boys,,,sweet boys Kirk. Though i have been made angry like any normal human world over what has been said ii willingly forgive and someday we may find each other again and be the best of friends.I apologies if anyone feels i have truly done them wrong...Forgive me if u feel i have done wrong or been to harsh but i wont deny my faith in MY God and power to heal and the fact he has healed my son and soon someday the world will know story...
Which he will tell.. himself.
Nothing is impossible with God!Yes this unless laws are broken or come close to it which i have faith the mods will keep a good check on it that im not longer threatened or my peace of mind... or unless im invited to a real discussion on faith,,,, this is the last of me.
But as one person told me.. ill be " keeping one eye open"..
Yes Friends... Ben is Healed... and Jesus Is Lord ( has Power and authority over)Autism now and forever!