(From a man who attempted to set fire to a mosque)
"You look like Obama. You are a Muslim like him," a court document quotes Crawford as telling an officer after he was arrested on Dec. 14 for a charge unrelated to the firebombing. "Jihad goes both ways. Christians can jihad too."
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Not a True Christian in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...
Doesn't jihad mean endeavor or quest? As in "endeavor to become more attuned with your sky-daddy".
A tip, Cody-boy; religion resides in a persons mind and heart, not in the skin-tone or facial structure.
"Christians can jihad too."
They can also forcibly fuck you in the ass, during communal showers, as you are no doubt going to be learning firsthand, very soon. Afterwards you, and your new Aryan Brotherhood buddies can go have bible study.
Except that Christians seem more interested in jihad than Muslims these days.
And I, too, am awaiting the "Not a true Christian..." comments coming soon, mixed with general approval and justification of "Well, look at all the bad stuff they've done."
"Jihad goes both ways. Christians can jihad too."
Finally, a Christian fundie gets something right for a change.
Well at least you admit it. Of course then does that mean we should suspect every Christian of being terrorists? Should we profile Christians at airlines? Should we not elected people if they are Christian and in fact use the fact that they are Christian as an accusation?
Somehow I think the answer is going to be no.
@Berny
"One Christian tries to set fire to a mosque (or kills an abortion provider...) and he's a lone deranged lunatic.
Religious apologists never get tired of moving those goal posts it seems."
Er, no, when a Christian kills an abortion provider he becomes a hero to the Christian community.
wrong, wrong, fail, wrong, fail, wrong, and fail.
well, at least the quota's filled...
dolt
Christians can jihad too
Yes, we know...
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@Xotan: Sure it is. He just verbed it.
And as long as I'm here, shut up Headache. Bigotry is not a mental health issue, which is why I'm not advising you to check into a mental health institute.
Christians can't "jihad" as it's a noun.
The verb is "mujahid" or "mujahida" and as it means 'to make an effort', so
yes, Christians are perfectly capable of it.
Headache wrote
Clearly the state of mental health care in the US sucks!
There is no mental health care in the US unless you can afford to pay, which pretty much excludes the mentally ill from treatment. Why do you think there isn't an equivalent of Rapture Ready in Europe? It's because our psycho's have access to medication...
Oh Cody, you f***ing idiot. How does this show Christianity in a good light when you do such stupid and hateful things like this? Did you ever stop to think about that before you attempted to firebomb a mosque? Yeah, I didn't think so either. How awful.
Oh, and hey Cody. I just wanted to let you know that not all Muslims are black, Arab, or Persian (that's for the countries like Afghanistan and Iran, Cody). In fact, Islam rivals Christianity for the title of most ethnically and racially diverse religion in the world. Also, there are those of Arab and Persian ethnicity that are Christian as well.
To fellow readers of FSTDT: I can only speak for myself when I say this from my own observation. The problem with talking to the more feverent/fanatical members of your own religion is that they tend to not want to listen to you since to them, you are not devout enough like they are to understand that they, the fanatics, are doing "good" and "right" with their henious actions, while the more moderate, sensible people in the same religion are "evil" or "wrong" for not acting out like they are. This is also why I understand that moderate Muslims cannot reason with their fanatical followers to stop terrorizing the world into their viewpoints.
Technically, while "jihad" and "crusade" possess common elements and are often similar in execution, they are fundamentally different in that the former is an internal struggle and the latter is an external struggle, either on a personal level (jihad would be a conflict in the faith of oneself, crusade would be a conflict against the faith of others) or a group level (jihad would be a conflict amongst a group of people, crusade would be a conflict against another group of people). Ultimately however such pedantic definitions don't excuse how any form of violence cannot and should not be justified with superstitions.
@Kat
It actually has very little to do with religion (although it certainly makes the process a lot easier to market) and has more to do with literally the oldest piece of propaganda in the book: the "Us vs Them" false dichotomy. The best way to either propagate hate and violence against a group or to gain control OF a group is to convince the members of a group that they are Us (who are, of course, right and just and everything good about the world) and that another group of people are Them (who are, inevitably, vile and wicked and want to destroy Us). Once this mentality is solidified any action against Them is entirely justified (because they aren't Us) and anyone who defends Them or criticises Us are immediately put into the same category as Them. We saw it with Communism, we see it now with Arab Muslims, we even see it on this website whenever the word Fundamentalist is used. It almost certainly will never disappear given how humans love to generalise, so the best we can do is identify it when it occurs and not fall into the trap.
@ rikalous
You are perfectly correct. This is one of the major diffences between American and English. America has the ability to use language in a far looser and more fluid way. And the fascinating thing is that we are here seeing a language process in operation. This is how a new language is born from an old one. It is not entirely unrelated to how French, Italian, Spanish etc evolved from Vulgar Latin.
Even so, I'll jihaad you if you insist it's a verb!
And since it's an Arabic word should we not spell it daahiJ. Y'know, they write from right to left :-)
"Jihad goes both ways. Christians can jihad too."
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How right you are.
@freako104
"Proof that religious fundies are more alike than different."
I see absolutely no difference between the likes of Andy Schaftafly (certainly the 'Keyboard Warriors' of Free Repubic et al) and Anders Breivik. The only difference being just one factor: Cojones .
Now you can see why right-wing Fundamental ist Christians pose an infinitely greater threat to world security than Al-Qaeda. They put the Mental in Fundamental ist, after all.
"Jihad goes both ways. Christians can jihad too."
Well at least Crazy Cody the Crawdaddy admits he's a terrorist!
All faiths have their nuts & people need to make the distinction between the nuts & normal people. The "No True Scotsman" mess applies to all whenever you're Cody Crawford, Timothy McVeigh, Anders Breivik, The Unibomber, Osama Bin Laden, Hamas, Hezzbollah, The IRA, The Tamil Tigers, etc.
In situations like this, Christians publicly denounce him, but privately support him.
Its all about keeping up the facade. Many, MANY Christians currently consider this man as a hero.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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