Couldn't have made the case better myself. The only thing I'd add is that ages of consent across the world used to be about 12 at the most with some places (e.g. Delaware, USA) being 7. So really the idea of legalising 'paedophilia' being excessively liberal is ridiculous - it is in reality our society now that is excessively puritanical.
The body of evidence in favour of the legalisation of 'paedophilia' is so enormous that there really is no reason not to. The only reason why the arguments are not heard is because governments have clamped down on and arrested those who try to speak the truth, such as the members of PIE, the members of the Dutch organisation Martijn and so forth.
The war on paedophiles really is a war on freedom of speech.
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That's what you're going with? You are free to talk about pedophilia all you like. We are free to tell you to go castrate yourself with a butter knife.
The only thing I'd add is that ages of consent across the world used to be about 12 at the most with some places
And slavery used to be legal, people used to use biological warfare and genocide used to be acceptable. So pardon me if I don't support this crap just because "that's the way it used to be".
The body of evidence in favour of the legalisation of 'paedophilia' is so enormous that there really is no reason not to
That is what, exactly? Is there scientific proof now that children can make informed decisions and reason at the same level adults can? Because short of that you have no fucking argument.
"The war on paedophiles really is a war on freedom of speech"
Except the right to freedom of speech granted by the Constitution does not include the right to repeatedly shove things into anyone's bodily orifices without their consent.
The US was way out of kilter with most of the world. Age of consent laws in Europe, even early as the Middle Ages, tended to have 12 as a minimum age. Otherwise, in traditional societies it tended to coincide with the age of puberty or sometime after. It is not 7 years of age.
I can think of at least one reason why holocaust21 and his playmates should be watched by his local law enforcement. Maybe more.
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We already remind wingnuts on the right that Nazis exist and are the logical conclusion of their partisanship.
There is such a thing as balance, you know.
No, Mr. Holocaust, government actually should not legislate in favor of your specific sexual deviancies; especially if they infringe on others rights, assplow. If you must stick your genitalia in something, the first thing on your list should be a blast furnace.
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Unless you think we could've avoided all this by simply keeping miscegenation and segregation laws in effect, in which case keep on truckin' with those slopes of yours, you silly coprolite you!
Edit: Also, what Goomy said. And what Old Viking said. Excuse me, I must go fetch the bleach.
What the heck is Spiked magazine? Is it a rag for pedos? What's the background? I don't have the stomach to click the link!
EDIT: I found a Wikipedia article. Some weird Right-Wing-pretending-to-be-Left-Wing Libertarian/quasi-Marxist whatchamacallit that takes the contrarian position to everything for funsies.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_%28magazine%29
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Ibuki can barely even comprehend this... it's not right... it's so not right, it's wrong... so, so wrong...
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This isn't about freedom of speech at all! In what kind of crazy world is this about free speech? There isn't even a "war on pedophiles"! Everyone's just supposed to know that pedophilia is wrong! It leaves traumatizing scars for life! It's not a victimless crime! The children are the victims!
How... how can these types of people even exist...?
The age of consent used to be lower, when men were obsessed with whether the kids their wife had were theirs or not. If you get a wife that's 9 years old, odds are she hasn't been with anyone else, and you can rob her of her virginity early on. Why they didn't realize that she could be with other men later on, I have no idea.
There's no need to put citation marks around pedophilia, it's a classified disorder by the ICD.
The only reason why the arguments are not heard is because normal people find it positively abhorring and disgusting to even imagine being sexually attracted to a CHILD! Do you have any evidence of anyone being arrested only for speaking up in favor of child-molestations? Perhaps the governments have had their eyes opened by the speaking and have looked into the person's behavior and found acts of molestations for which the person has been arrested.
The war on pedophiles really is a war on child molestations.
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