On the topic of vaccinations for HPV we have considered a government mandate in favor. It is unappealing to lovers of freedom that a thing should be forced upon them, especially when that thing seems beneficial enough in itself as to not need enforcement. Despite this distaste, we can recognize that effective mandates for HPV vaccinations would minimize the proportional occurance of the disease in our society. But is this a good thing? Who is this good for and who is it bad for? Let's face it: only reckless sluts benefit from this mandate. Who suffers under such a thing? Surely society suffers, as personal responsibility and intellectual Darwinism become diluted under this kind of governmental regulation.
So if there has to be a law about HPV vaccinations, they should be illegal. STDs are good tools for reminding society that there are consequences for behavior.
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Sorry, but it´s not what you´re focusing. It´s girls who are deprived BY THEIR PARENTS, because they think that sex is awful. Man, if STD´s disappear, sex is exactly what nature gives us for reproducing, no matter if you commit to being a slave to somebody else or not. Second, "only reckless sluts"?, what about raped women, or those whose husband is unfaithful?. I change the sentence, only philanders benefit from ilegal HPV vaccinations.
My school mandated that everyone entering must be vaccinated against Hepatitis, Tetanus, and Measles. Obviously this is also unappealing to lovers of freedom, since who benefits from this? Obviously only people with weak immune systems, who probably have AIDS and are therefore gay.
And this is why it would need to be mandatory. To prevent people like you from carrying HPV and infecting everyone because you wanted to remind them that sex is wrong. Here's a hint: men can carry HPV too, and they often don't show any symptoms. What if a guy who waited until marriage to have sex gets HPV from his wife, then re-marries and passes it on to his new wife? Both of them waited until marriage to have sex, neither of them are "reckless sluts" by any definition, and yet the new wife now has HPV, gets cervical cancer, and suffers horribly, even though she waited until marriage and followed all the other things that are supposed to let you avoid STDs.
Yeah, no woman has ever caught HPV from a cheating spouse, or from a spouse who wasn't a virgin before her.
I want to punch this guy in his ignorant, misogynistic face.
Yeah, STDs are fucking fantastic for the babies who die from Herpes soon after birth or get ocular Chlamydia and Gonorrhea during delivery and end up blind.
Even accepting your world view where sex=bad, "innocent" people are hurt by STDs. Eliminating them from our population pool would protect the "innocent."
So, women shouldn't be allowed any pain relief during child birth? I mean, don't they have to be reminded of God's curse in Genesis?
People with a cold or the flu shouldn't get any medications, even OTC medications, to be reminded of the consequences of not washing their hands?
People in car crashes should be left to die to remind them not to speed or turn left across traffic?
"especially when that thing seems beneficial enough in itself as to not need enforcement. "
Except fundies are such dumb fucks things like education and sanitation have to be forced upon them.
"So if there has to be a law about HPV vaccinations, they should be illegal. STDs are good tools for reminding society that there are consequences for behavior."
Sex is a sin, but cancer is not. This vaccine causes sex and prevents cancer. Therefore this vaccine is harmful - it causes a bad thing and prevents a good thing.
I think we should encourage people to speak out against the HPV vaccine. Then we can arrest them all for child abuse and give their children to nice loving couple that will teach them about evolution, science, truth and tolerance.
@Malicious Bloke - Sorry, my statement wasn't too clear. I was thinking of the increased chance of future mutation caused by allowing it to continue propagating, as opposed to extincting it with an effective universal vaccine before it mutates.
Let's face it: only reckless sluts benefit from this mandate.
And we all know that Jesus hated sluts and wanted them to die, right?
STDs are good tools for reminding society that there are consequences for behavior. At the same time, God gave us laws about sexual purity to protect us from STDs.
Following your reason, medicine should not exist, because the medicines and vaccines prevent many illnesses that derive from a wrong lifestyle. For example, following your logic, anti-depressants should be forbidden because only people with high level of stress and workaholics benefit from that. Or any anti-biotics that cures say ghonorrea, on the same ground.
Yes, we know. You wish ill on anyone who's not like you.
HPV vaccine should be readily available, but not mandatory, for reasons of principle. Declaring the desirability of anything to be self-evident should be handled by lawmakers with the same exquisite care as the deployment of nuclear weapons; they're useful if they don't get out of hand, but if you don't respect the forces you're manipulating, the consequences are horrific.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
The government has ALWAYS mandated certain vaccines - and we ALREADY vaccinate against an STD. Hepatitis B, ladies and gents. Passed through sex, shared needles, and other blood/body fluid contact. I don't hear the Christian outcry over that one.
Also...I can respect the "we don't need that vaccine because my kid's not going to have sex before marriage." But *aside* from the point that HPV can be self-transmitted (autoinoculation), have any of these folks ever thought about the possibility of their kid getting raped?
People. I don't understand 'em.
Hey, Dumbofamucil! Pyramid Head wants a word with you.
What happened to all those young ladies' noses?
Confused?
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