Words of Comfort: Age of the Earth
“If you believe the earth is 6000 years old then you deny science.”
If you believe the earth is millions or billions of years old, you “believe” science. You don’t “know” the age of the earth. You “trust” what you’ve been told by fallible men and fallible dating processes. Your convictions rest entirely on faith.
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No, I do not believe in science, I have a certain degree of trust in it, because I know how it works and because everything I learned so far from it appears to be true.
Edit: Sangfroid
Interesting.
Ray, could you tell use how you arrived at the 6,000 year figure? Because there is real, solid evidence that mankind was developing agriculture 10,000 years ago.
I wonder when god created the banana?
No, I know the universe is billions of years old because I have an advanced degree in physics and have done the science myself. I have taught others to do it for themselves as well.
Every branch of hard science leads to the conclusion of deep time. Every one. It takes no more faith to believe in an old universe than it does to believe that the Sun still exists at night.
Come on, Ray, demonstrate how the dating methods are fallible to the tune of the difference between 6000 and 4.54 billion years.
Then you can show how well the banana fits in your ass.
"If you believe the earth is 6000 years old, you “believe” religion. You don’t have any evidence that what you believe is actually true. You “trust” what you’ve been told by fallible men like Bishop Ussher based on fallible human calculations of fallible human interpretations of a 2000-year-old book written by fallible humans. Your convictions rest entirely on faith."
Fixed.
If you believe the earth is millions or billions of years old, you “believe” science.
Because science has the evidence to back it up.
Sure, Ray, I "believe" that fault lines make more sense than God's wrath, that medicine is more effective than prayer, that computers are superior to engraving on stone tablets. I "believe" that science is vastly superior to religion in all ways.
I'll take the fallible men at CERN and NASA over the fallible man at Ray Comfort's blog 100 out of 100 times. And no, it's not faith to follow the evidence to the age of the Earth any more than we convict murderers on faith. If you can pull the "you don't really know" card here then we should release almost all murderers because aside from the ones that were video taped and caught holding the murder weapon none of the others come CLOSE to the amount evidence for the age of the Earth.
Bananas of Comfort: Age of the Banana
“If you banana the earth is 6000 bananas old then you deny bananas.”
If you believe the banana is bananas or billions of years banana, you “believe” science. Banana don’t “know” the banana of the earth. You “trust” what you’ve been bananad by banana men and fallible banana processes. Your bananas rest entirely on faith.
If you believe the earth is 6000 years old, you “believe” a fringe minority religion. You don’t “know” the age of the earth. You “trust” what you’ve been told by fallible men who wrote the Bible, and fallible adding processes of Usher, even though it contradicts readily available evidence to the contrary.
Believing reasonable supposition based on evidence = knowledge.
Believing in something you hope to be true, when there is no evidence either way, and you know you could be wrong = faith.
Carbon Dating and Uranium Dating says you're wrong, buddy boy. We've accurately observed the half life periods of these and other radioactive elements. In fact the seconds. On which we base all our time? It's based off the half life of a Cesium isotope.
So, Ray Comfort, do you hate TIME?
Another fundie who doesn't seem to understand what either "science" or even "faith" means.
As opposed to fundies, we don't blindly believe in our worldview. We accept what science says as the truth because it actually has PROVEN itself to be true. Proven by multiple people who actually studied and worked hard to earn their believability.
And as opposed to faith, science actually bothers to change it's stance if the evidence changes, making sure that no matter what, it tries to be as correct as possible.
No, they rest upon EVIDENCE because I understand the methodology and the mathematics behind radiometric dating.
There is a difference between faith and confidence.
If you believe anything Ray Comfort says, then you deny logic, reason, reality, and sanity.
Those who Theresa May Not has sold her soul to, the DUP, think the world is only [I]4,000[/I] years old . If you belie ve the earth is 6000 years old then you deny your own belie fs.
I'd say 'Fundie Fight!', but the DUP have Unionist terrorists on their side, so you're physically fallible when it comes to persuading those fundier-than-thou to come to your way of thinking, Ray Cumfart.
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