I think it tragic that so many would ignore logic for the sake of a way to explain away God, and yet so many believe a religion like evolution which has more assumptions than fact or science. And Although I do not condone his actions. I think it tragic that a woman gets time served and 60 days for 'involuntary manslaughter' for shooting her minister husband in the back while he sleeps and Hovind gets 10 years......I just don't understand. What kind of a message are we sending to our society?
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1 I think it's tragic that so many would ignore facts and logic for the sake of a way to take the Bible as a literal scientific document.
2 Evolution isn't a religion and repeatedly calling it one won't change the fact it isn't.
3 Evolution unlike religion is based on facts and evidence.
4 Hovind got the 10 yrs he deserves.
"I think it tragic that so many would ignore logic for the sake of a way to explain away God..."
and yet so many believe a religion like evolution which has more assumptions than fact or science
o rly?
Evolution has more assumptions than fact or science?
Sounds like pot is calling the kettle black!
"I think it tragic that a woman gets time served and 60 days for 'involuntary manslaughter' for shooting her minister husband in the back while he sleeps..."
"What kind of a message are we sending to our society?"
I think it tragic that so many would ignore logic for the sake of a way to explain away God
Now that's just amazing.
It's when we started applying logic that we realized God was not needed to explain the world.
and yet so many believe a religion like evolution which has more assumptions than fact or science.
What fact or science to you based your own religion on? Heard of the scientific method?
This is the message we're sending to society:
1. You break the law, you go to jail.
2. History is based on things that actually happened.
And I'm trying to figure out what judge would classify first-degree murder as "involuntary manslaughter". Methinks someone is bullshitting.
The fact the the minister's physical abuse of his wife contributed to the mental problems that led to her shooting him on the spur of the moment were considered mitigating circumstances in the case. In Hovind's case, there were no facts mitigating his deliberate crimes of fraud and tax evasion which he had knowingly carried on for years.
I think it tragic that a woman gets time served and 60 days for 'involuntary manslaughter' for shooting her minister husband in the back while he sleeps and Hovind gets 10 years.
My personal opinion is that the judicial system over uses jail as a punishment. Certainly jail is necessary for the person who has committed a violent offense or is a danger to others. But jail time for tax evasion? Yes, let's increase the cost for the tax payer, to guard and house the non-violent non-threatening offender and take them out of the productive workforce. It does not make sense. Kent Hovind should be sentenced to ten years of no publicity, no publishing, no responsibility over others and no businesses. Ten years of cleaning public washrooms would have been much more appropriate.
"Involuntary manslaughter" means that either she was criminally negligent and shot him by accident through gross carelessness, or they thought they'd have a hard time convicting her of murder and did a plea-bargain.
Hovind got 10 years because he not only committed the crime, he persisted in playing games with the legal system, lied, made facetious arguments, went out of his way to cover his tracks and refused (and still refuses) to admit he's subject to the law. He could have avoided the prison sentence by admitting up front that he owed the taxes and striking a deal with the IRS to pay them. He chose not to. When he gets out, it won't surprise me if he just does the same thing again, because he's the kind of person who never admits he's wrong.
<i>What kind of a message are we sending to our society? </i>
That when the Government says "pay the Man," you better come across with the green.
A)It's a tragedy that people look for alternatives to get away with God. However, isn't it more tragic that the only ones who seem to believe in an inerrant Bible have to be thieves and liars?. It's not the fault of society if they don't make their theories believable and consistent.
All I saw is "free Hovind" and all I have to say is:
FUCK NO!
He's spreading his stupid well enough in jail, anyway!
The moral of this story, if it has one , is DONT MESS WITH THE I.R.S !
I would like to here the rest of the shot minister story. There are a few I would have liked to shoot but legalities stopped me.
Another example of reversed logic. Where "logic" means their nonsense without evidence, and is used to dismiss actual logic and promote science-denial and creationism pseudoscience. Since what they do is religion, they also accuse science of doing the same. False equivalence. And well, there's Hovind in the website's name. Pwned!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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