(From an article on the recent school shooting)
Consider that when a man dressed in black comes into a room with unsuspecting children in it and takes their lives by violence and bloodshed, we are shocked, outraged, angered, saddened, confused, and deeply grieved. But when a man dressed in white comes into a room with an unsuspecting child in it and takes that child’s life by injecting him with poison, or ripping him to shreds, and removing him from his mother’s womb, we are usually one of three things: oblivious, apathetic, or supportive.
We recognize the actions of the man in black as a grave offense against life and goodness and the fiber of society. But we insist the actions of the man in white is a matter of choice and preference and even necessary for the good of—take your pick —the mother, the father, society at large, an overpopulated planet, or even the child! (“It would be cruel”, it is said with insane seriousness, “to bring a child into a life of poverty.” I suspect that our three children, all adopted, would disagree.)
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How many children have died because of a vaccine?
How many children were ripped to pieces by doctors, acting in a medical capacity?
As for the last one, a clump of cells is not a child.
You say it is a potential life. Alright, let us admit it, just for argument's sake. Then, surely, an ovula is also a potential life. So is a spermatozoid, then.
So, if an abortion, which destroys a potential life, is a murder, what is male masturbation, which destroys hundreds of millions of potential lives? A genocide?
You are not the only ones who can use the slippery slope argument...
That analogy failed to hard it almost altered the earth's axis.
And I would call you a vulture, but as has pointed out in another thread on the same subject, vultures actually serve a purpose and don;t deserve to be insulted in this way.
If you can't tell the difference between shooting children in cold blood and a woman having an abortion to remove an embryo from her uterus, I don't know what to fucking say to you. Besides saying you are an insane, deluded sick person.
Embryos can be kept in a freezer. Can't say the same for a seven year old kid.
Aborting a foetus is not the same as shooting a 10-year old child, or however old they were, with an assault rifle. There is less of a degree of suffering for everyone involved.
You can't force women to give birth to children that they don't want. Not all unwanted kids will be able to be adopted. The world is already overpopulated. Therefore it makes sense to terminate pregnancies if the mother so chooses.
The students at Sandy Hook were not fetuses. They were fully formed, sentient human beings. If you can't tell the difference between this:
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Then you shouldn't be commenting on either.
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then at the same time a woman's monthly period is also genocide too, since it also kills an egg,and that's uncontrollable,so therefore apparently by that logic it wouldn't matter anyway since women do it naturaly every month
The kids, who were shot and killed in their school, were sentient children, with functioning nervous systems.
The embryos that are aborted are mostly lumps of cells, indistinguishable from chicken embryos, non-sentient and with no functioning nervous system. Ripping an embryo to shreds would be a bit dificult, as it's so tiny.
In cases where the fetus threatens the life of the woman, we do indeed choose to value the life of the woman higher than the life of the fetus. The woman might have other kids who need her, and if she's allowed to live on, she can have future kids. The fetus will probably die, whether an abortion is performed or not.
Let me tell you something Carl, if I ever see a man insert an semi-automatic rifle in a women vagina and start shooting, I will be outraged.
In the meanwhile, I have something you won't be outraged about.
By this logic, I boiled a chicken to death this morning and served it to my mom on an English muffin, which sounds far more horrific than "made my mom a poached egg for Mother's Day."
Also, I have a 6-year-old who just learned to ride a bike, loves They Might Be Giants' "Here Comes the Science!," has a favorite stuffed animal (two, actually, a plush giant squid(!) and a bantha (star wars!) I made for her), and wants to be a marine biologist or a paleontologist when she grows up. She is different than a clump of unwanted cells, and - furthermore - was even at the same stage of development a clump of wanted cells, which makes a world of difference ethically. Therefore, I welcome you to ignite spontaneously and then perish in the ensuing inferno.
@Filin, that's what I thought was coming up, too.
"But when a man dressed in white comes into a room with an unsuspecting child in it and..." Oh, you mean a priest molesting a chi--
"takes that child’s life by injecting him with poison, or ripping him to shreds, and removing him from his mother’s womb," I, uhm.. What?
"Blobs of cells with no brain activity", fundies say with insane seriousness, "are more human than the mothers who support them. Or those damn atheist scumbags that call us out on all our bullshit. Or those evil, evil gays who do things we don't like. Or people of other religions, skin colors, national origins, and upbringings. And people who use their brains instead of following blindly an insane 'morality'. And those people who are Christian but aren't 'Christian enough' and dare to try to only follow the good parts of the Bible. And anyone who voted for that blackie secret Muslim gay baby-eating Obamanation. And those wicked scientists who say it's impossible for the world to be 6000 years old. And anyone who doesn't believe exactly as I believe and do exactly as I say, for I believe that an unproven entity is behind me all the way. Amen."
Go on Catholics, keep damaging your cause by referencing a tragedy that's still raw and painful.
Seriously keep doing it. Keep making yourself more hated and irrelevant.
Confused?
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