We've got to get to the point where tolerance is seen as a sin because we're tolerating a lot stuff that destroys our families, that destroys our own character and we can't tolerate that stuff. We have to get back to the point where hate is a virtue, at least certain kinds of hate. The fear of the Lord is to hate evil and we need to have a hatred of things and get off this fence of having no passion about anything. You know, 'I tolerate anything, I'm not going to have a passion good or bad, I'm not going to hate anything.' We just can't do that and we've got to get back to that same type of intolerance, that we're going to be intolerant of liberalism.
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"We have to get back to the point where hate is a virtue, at least certain kinds of hate."
Ignoring your own bible because it doesn't conform to current idealogical trends among the american christian right is a pretty sure sign that you've got off the bus at fundie town.
Doesn't that book of yours tell you to love your enemies?
How is tolerance destroying families and character? Families are destroyed when one part of the family hates another part, not when everyone accepts and respects each other for who they are.
You're already doing it anyway, dude.
Now you're looking for some way to make it acceptable in the eyes of the lawd, but you're just not suuuurrreee....
Tolerance Bad, Hatred Good. Him Kristian, Dave Barton, him is.
That's right - own that hatred. Be loud and proud about hatred. Now, go try and find a job. Good luck with the internet search check. Oh, yeah, and maybe be extra nice to the TSA dudes when they call you into the side door for a little chat next time you're at the airport.
This is the guy who's book 'The Jefferson Lies' was exposed as, well, the Jefferson lies, right?
Yeah, I guess I'll start by hating the act of lying...
[Terry Prachett Philosophy Time]
Technically, hatred in and of itself is not a vice. Indeed, one could say that hatred, while not the foundation of virtue, is certainly the klin for the bricks of the actual foundation.
Charity, for example, is hatred for the state of poverty, while acceptance is hatred of fear for the outsider.
In other words, exactly the kind of hatred David Barton was not hawking.
we're tolerating a lot stuff that destroys our families
Because a couple guys getting married in a state a thousand miles away is tearing my family apart. Soon I won't be able to see my kids any more. [/sarcasm]
We have to get back to the point where hate is a virtue
Maybe you should go join the WBC? For them, hate is not just a virtue, it's something to wallow in. It's a way of life.
we're going to be intolerant of liberalism.
What do you mean "going to be?"
It's weird how Barton paints proponents of equality as passionless. We wouldn't have gotten this far without people who passionately opposed unequal treatment, who fought and occasionally died opposing "sodomy laws", who discovered officials directly or indirectly endorsing discrimination and violence against gay people and called them out. Were the civil rights leaders passionless as they worked toward a world where we no longer judged people by the color of their skin? Were the founding fathers passionless when they expressly forbade a "religious test" to hold office and passed freedom of speech and religion as the First Amendment to the Constitution?
Apparently the only kind of passion Barton and his ilk are capable of understanding is hate.
"We have to get back to the point where hate is a virtue, at least certain kinds of hate"
Doubleplus goodthink, David. See you at the next Two Minutes Hate.
And if 'Hate is a virtue ', then I guess you'll agree that you & your fundie ilk have absolutely no right to so much as think of objecting, nay, you'll just meekly accept such, when you start being spat upon, beaten up, lynched etc by hyper-anti-religionist Fundie Bashers, eh?!
Remember: if you so much as think about objecting to this notion, then you admit that Hate isn't a 'virtue'.
We've got to get to the point where tolerance is seen as a sin
Strange, I thought God was supposed to decide what's a sin and what's not.
Now we get to decide? I'd say that's a sin.
Yes, we've got to get to the point where deciding what's a sin is seen as a sin. Amen.
ChristoZealots...be they this guy, The Pope, Crusaders, Inquisitions, Puritans, Strict Calvinists, etc. are the equivalent of some bozos getting together to start an organization dedicated to Martin Luther King Jr. and using it to spread warfare, brutality, repression & bigotry.
Really, they use JESUS, of all people...a guy who was, for the most part, pretty peace-loving, charitable & liberal!
That's the problem with equating Yeshua Bar Yoseph with the brutal, vengeful, Demiurgic OT deity. THIS!
You know what's weird? Most OT people are more NT in nature than a lot of NT people (Haredis & their ilk being the exception).
Where's Bayonetta when you need her? YO BAYONETTA! GO KILL THAT DEMIURGE!
Oh, I agree, we need to be more intolerant of the things that destroy families--lack of education, poverty, hunger . . . Oh, wait, it's David Barton. Nevermind.
Your problem, Dave, is that you were born in the wrong millenium: you'd have been right at home in the Imperium of Man , a theocratic nightmare where blind hatred and absolute intolerance are indeed considered virtues.
David really hates the truth. He's intolerant of real history and gets angry at accurate quoting.
This is the far right Conservative bend. Lying about everything on a daily basis. It was born in the Fundamentalist parishes spread into Republican Conservatism and now heavily pollutes publishing and education.
There are people showing the evidence of these lies and they just don't care, it's not that they don't believe Bartons detractors, it's that they don't care. It's the lying for Jesus syndrome, they WANT to believe the church represents all that's right and proper in America, that the church (as they do claim) is the origins of Liberty, Justice and happiness. It's bullshit but too many have been brainwashed from infancy.
Every move towards a better, more equal and freer country has been Liberal in concept.
Been following this Barton controversy for years. There are twenty rebuttles to every piece of work he's produced because he lies that much and often. Like Hovind and Craig this ass makes a lucrative living off of giving the same speeches over and over again in a circuit.
The intolerance message by the way is the only thing that fits with him shilling for Trump. Trump doesn't know anything about religion, he's born rich so he wasn't raised in the Southern Baptist or Evangelical crowd Barton feeds off of but he's intolerant like them and that, plus the lies of how it was much better before is why Trump is their choice.
Confused?
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