I CAN'T believe in the Big Bang, until someone explains to me how our universe got here without violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.
WHAT "banged"? You explain WHAT "banged" and we can then have a discussion...until then, "not even close, let alone no cigar".
Oh, and for the record, evolutionism is far more religious than creationism. At least creation doesn't violate the laws of physics.
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"At least creation doesn't violate the laws of physics."
Probably because it completely ignores physics and has a sky daddy poofing things into existence out of nothing. Al current models of astronomy, abiogenesis and evolution adhere to the limits of physics.
At least creation doesn't violate the laws of physics.
So the universe couldn't have just poofed into existence because it violates the first Law of Thermodynamics, but it's OK when God does it?
Do you actually know the 1st Law of Thermodynamics, or have you just heard from your pastor or favorite Fox talking head that the Big Bang violates it?
Nothing "banged"; a singularity started expanding into the Universe, and it's still expanding today. It's OK, I don't want any cigar.
Magic always violates all laws of physics, that's why it's called magic, stupid. What laws of physics were God following, when he poofed everything into existence from nothing, and created Adam from dust?
There is no such thing as evolutionism, it's just realism.
"WHAT 'banged'?"
Ask your mother.
"I CAN'T believe in the Big Bang, until someone explains to me how our universe got here without violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics."
...as opposed to, say: an entire universe, world & animal life just 'poofed' into being with nary a thought by a 'Designer', yet said 'Designer' limited his 'Omnipotence ' by not doing exactly the same for the first humans?! Oh yeah, that's far more credible, isn't it? [/hyper-sarcasm]
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"I CAN'T belie ve in the Big Bang"
...but a fairy story is easier to accept, isn't it? As proven by your own words: 'Believe'. You cannot spell that without the word 'LIE .
That is why you FAIL. [/Yoda]
I CAN'T believe in the Big Poof, until someone explains to me how god got here without violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.
WHAT "created god"? You explain WHAT "created god" and we can then have a discussion...until then, "not even close, let alone no cigar".
So wait, hes arguing against the big bang due to "something from nothing" then goes on to say the creationism is write even though it argues for something from nothing.
First off, the big bang is less of an explosion and more of a rapid expansion. The universe prebang was essentially a hyper dense mass of energy. It expanded in the "bang" and eventually the universe was large enough that the energy density was low enough for the formation of matter. I highly recommend reading "A brief history of time", it describes the process in great detail without being too wordy.
WHAT "banged"? You explain WHAT "banged" and we can then have a discussion
Energy, which as far as we know has always existed thus the first law of thermodynamics is preserved.
First of all, the Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution. One theory is cosmology and the other is biology.
What "banged"? Everything. All the mass and energy contained in the universe was contained in a singularity of hyper-energetic plasma.
"Creation" violates all the laws of physics and chemistry and cosmology and biology and geology and every other science as well as reality itself.
I CAN'T believe in the Big Bang, until someone explains to me how our universe got here without violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.
Will you refuse to believe the sky is blue until someone explains quantum theory? The answer to your question is readily available. All you have to do is spend a few years studying graduate level astrophysics. Meanwhile, explain how God got there without violating the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.
"I CAN'T believe in the Big Bang" That's the problem."
No this is the problem............
If you produced absolutely irrefutable proof that God exists my rationality would force me to believe it. But If I produced irrefutable proof for the nonexistence of God you irrationality would force you not to believe it
Besides all that has already been said, the universe did not "come out of nothing". It came out of something , but since the laws of physics by which we observe the universe did not develop until 1x10^-43 seconds after the singularity began to expand, we have no frame of reference to even begin to explain what that something was.
Cosmology is trippy.
Explain why you believe big bang comsology violates the first law of thermodynamics in the first place, and then we'll talk.
Creation does violate the laws of physics: the magical creation of planets, etc., de novo violates conservation of matter and energy.
First Law says energy can't be created, it can only change form. The Big Bang was the sudden expansion of the energy within what is referred to as a singularity. Now can we have a discussion? Please! Oh, please, please! I was so looking forward to one.
"At least creation doesn't violate the laws of physics."
"Matter can not be created nor destroyed, only converted."
WHAT "banged"? You explain WHAT "banged" and we can then have a discussion...until then, "not even close, let alone no cigar".
First off, the Big Bang doesn't describe the actual moment of creation, it describes what happened in the first few moments thereafter. Secondly, we don't yet know what caused that initial moment of creation.
Oh, and for the record, evolutionism is far more religious than creationism
Just saying that doesn't make it any less of a lie.
The singularity (all matter in currently in the universe compressed into something about the size of a golfball) expanded, simultaneously allowing space, time and matter to come into existence.
Cosmology and biological evolution are not connected.
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