MODERN PERSECUTION AGAINST TRUE CHRISTIANS: TIMES HAVE CHANGED: Up until the 13th century the doctrine of original sin had the belief that babies either went to eternal hell or heaven depending upon whether they were believers or not. Times have changed; Today the Lib’s believe in a forgiving and merciful God when it comes to their liberal beliefs of free sex and baby murdering, yet God says in His word that He will not forgive anyone who is unbelieving, including babies-it is the one unforgivable sin (1 John 5:16). On the other hand, the Lib’s have instituted a cruel taskmaster over the American people with the involuntary servitude (SLAVERY) of socialism, a God who is mean and cruel and who takes your property and redistributes that wealth to whom and when government wants, not to whom and when you decide so that you cannot decide to have lots of children—or else you will go broke..
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Factually incorrect in every possible way. Never heard of Limbo? That doctrine is gone now, thanks to people complaining about the unfairness of it. So, the Vatican waved their wand, and now the faithful can have their babies in heaven.
Back before income tax, you could still go broke having too many kids - and there was no food stamp program or assisted housing to keep you off the streets.
yet God says in His word that He will not forgive anyone who is unbelieving, including babies-it is the one unforgivable sin (1 John 5:16).
No baby "believes in God". They don't even understand the concept. If what you believe is true, the lake of fire must be a giant bowl of baby soup, since every baby that ever died will be there. If that's true, your God is a bigger asshole than I thought possible.
you cannot decide to have lots of children
or else you will go broke
Isn't God supposed to provide the faithful with what they need? Your typical billionaire doesn't have any problem supporting lots of children, so maybe they're more faithful than you? Or maybe it's just that they horde all of their money by paying their workers poorly and getting politicians to write huge tax breaks into the laws?
Speaking of babies:
What happend to all the babies during the flood?
What happened to all of the Midianite babies?
What happened to all of the Malekite babies?
What happened to all of the first-born of Egypt?
What does your book say about them?
"yet God says in His word that He will not forgive anyone who is unbelieving"
"so that you cannot decide to have lots of children
or else you will go broke.."
Up until the 13th century the doctrine of original sin had the belief that babies either went to eternal hell or heaven depending upon whether they were believers or not.
Babies do not believe; you are confusing infant and believer's baptism.
a God who is mean and cruel and who takes your property and redistributes that wealth to whom and when government wants, not to whom and when you decide so that you cannot decide to have lots of children
or else you will go broke..
So everyone in the Quiverfull movement is rich? Besides, having lots of children has been encouraged by socialist countries: Ceausescu's Romania and Hoxha's Albania were both natalist. In fact, Ceausescu banned abortion, contraception and homosexuality, made divorce very difficult, and forcibly checked women of childbearing age every month to see if they were pregnant. He sounds right up your street.
"so that you cannot decide to have lots of children
or else you will go broke.."
I'd rather have a deity that takes my stuff & gives to the less-fortunate than a deity who sends babies into eternal torment.
You think the later isn't "mean & cruel". Well I got two words for you, "SCREW YOU"!
Screw your Demiurge. Screw your "Hell-bound babies"! Screw your "Eternal Damnation"! Screw your frummie Khorne-like "Sky-Stalin" Gawd! He's the real Satan!
the doctrine of original sin
Ah yes, the belief that new-born babies were to be eternally punished for a crime they did not commit...
yet God says in His word that He will not forgive anyone who is unbelieving, including babies-it is the one unforgivable sin (1 John 5:16).
First, that means no-one can get into heaven since we are all unbelievers when born... and since it cannot be forgiven and you need to have your sins forgiven to get into heaven, god is gonna get very fucking lonely up there...
Second, I thought Blaspheming the Holy Spirit was the only unforgivable sin...
Third, 1 John 5:16 says sweet fuck all about unbelievers, and about if that is an unforgivable sin.
Actually, the unforgivable sin is defined in Matthew 12.
Matthew 12:31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
So... if the babies are all sinners deserving of Hell then what's the big problem with abortion?
Oh wait, your God is pro-SUFFERING! That's why?
So when did shoving your head up your ass and keeping it there become a prerequisite for being a "TRUE CHRISTIAN?" Seriously.
Your Bible God has no problem with child murder.
"Sins of the father...?"
"Killing of the firstborn?"
Every fucking natural disaster that you allege is "His Will," or "Divine Retribution" for gay marriage?
Socialism? In the US? Where? The New Testament talks about sharing everything among the disciples and all followers of Jesus.
I thought babies went to Limbo, if they died before they were old enough to believe.
"The Libs" are right-wings, on standard political spectrums. They don't want socialism any more than Conservatives want liberalism.
Babies are believers?
Sorry, but no. Read up on the Doctrine of Infant Damnation.
The rest of this is just made up bullshit.
So when the fuck is Obama going to redistribute all of the property? Oh wait, that's right he did it his first few months in office when he bailed out the criminal banking system with our money. We salute you, comrade! Truly you understand sociolism as well as these wingnuts do.
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