Today, it's just down right arrogant of scientists to say that we could even effect the earth since we still have only proven that we have almost no effect on it. If God put us here to take care of the earth, it would be as if the earth is more important than us, and that's not true, because we're told that we are foremost of all His creation.
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*headdesk*
So Mr BrianC, you want your kids to live in a world with no food, no clean water, no animals, no place to live, and everything gives you cancer? Wow you suck. Die in a fire, kthnx.
You are an arrogant, selfish, immature little twit, you know that? Oh, and rather stupid, too.
Yeah, we have NO effect on the planet-
Building the Hoover Dam created a lake with TRILLIONS of gallons behind it.
Mining companies remove entire MOUNTAINS to get at the minerals and ore underneath it.
Hills 20 stories tall made of GARBAGE are commonly found at old decommissioned landfills.
ME - 3 , YOU - ZIP
'nuff said.
How 'bout the Exxon Valdez oil spill, the Love Canal evacuation, the Summitville Mine disaster, or 1930's Dust Bowl? That's just in your United States and there's certainly more examples.
Now STFU and go drink some toxic waste.
Well, the earth coped 4.4 billion years without us "taking care" of it and could still do another 5 or so in the future.
Now let's see how long you manage without an atmosphere, magnetosphere, oceans... let us know how you get on.
Perhaps we should stick your ignorant head into the North Pacific Gyre and see whether your eyes open.
If a double-Texas size plastic soup can't get the truth into your skull mayhap we should leave you there.
Following your logic, there shouldn't be hospitals, because God never intended us to take care of our health and we have no effect in our bodies, or computers, or towns................
You just know that God is having his own headdesk moment when he sees this sort of stuff.
I suspect that the reason God didn't tell you to take care of the earth is because it's so mind numbingly obvious that you would have to be a total idiot to need a reminder. "Not fucking up your enviroment" is up there with "don't saw off your feet" and "never push razor blades into your genitals" for things that you really didn't need to be told.
I don't think God put us here, period. However, I agree that we're more important than the Earth. However, we live on the Earth, so we need to take care of it, so we don't have catastrophic climate change and die.
If your god put us here as custodians for his earth, then we are doing a terrible job of it. We are raping this planet, and there will not be another for us. We must care for what we have, and safeguard it for future generations.
And what if the Rapture is another 5,000 years away? What are you going to do then?
As for what we have done to the environment
Nuclear waste/warfare
The polar bear going extinct because of a lack of ice at the North Pole
Methane from landfills
3.2 billion metric tonnes of Carbon Dioxide added to the air every year.
leakages and spills of toxic materials
None of this affects our environment? We may not be able to destroy the earth, but we can definitely make it uninhabitable for humans.
"Arrogant" is a funny word to use, as invariably the speaker projects more arrogance than his target(s). In this light, the rest of this jumble is nothing more than obstinate ignorance.
If you lived in a pigpen, BrianC, the pigs would dictate your understanding of the world.
... we are foremost of all His creation."
Oh, sure. My bet is, we're not even mentioned on his resume.
"Today, it's just down right arrogant of scientists to say that we could even effect the earth..."
You're right. To say that we can "effect" an entire planet would be supremely arrogant, which is why no one is saying that. We can, however, "affect" the Earth.
For kicks and giggles, here's his response to "humans do effect the earth YOU IDIOT!":
"We drill for oil, but please tell me, what part of nature uses oil? Do crocodiles need oil to dine by candlelight in those romantic evenings with their spouses? No, oil is not used by nature. So us drilling it has no effect on nature. Mining ore...again, no affect on nature. Roads? Cities? All we've done is force animal populations to go into other parts of the region. We didn't kill a bunch of animals, though, and the ecosystems in the U.S. do just fine. We are not wiping out tons of species. lol I don't know if you've ever driven cross country before, but I do it constantly, and you would NOT believe just HOW MUCH land and forests there is out there that's untouched by people or cities. I mean, HUGE HUGE quantities."
It scares me to think that some people have such an ignorant disregard for nature.
So what you're saying is we shouldn't take care of things that are less important than us?
Ok, I guess it's open season on every creature in existence, using any means necessary.
Oh, and somebody slaughter all the peasants.
Because of a couple of decades of atmospheric nuclear testing at just a handful of sites worldwide, it is now virtually impossible to make iron or steel that does not contain a residual amount of radioactivity. Much to the annoyance of scientists building particle detectors.
Now consider over two centuries of atmospheric pollution from millions of industrial sites around the world...
No? Still don't see it?
Okay, next time you visit an antique-store see if they have one of those old-fashioned drawing-room globes and take a real close look at it. See the thin layer of varnish the makers have applied as a finishing touch? That's approximately how thick our atmosphere is in proportion to the Earth.
So, Brian, if your god really did lay down the ten commandments, I imagine the only reason he didn't add an eleventh that read "Don't fuck with the air you breathe, water you drink or food you eat." is because he couldn't imagine anyone would be that stupid!
(To the top of the stratosphere is about 0.4-0.5% of the Earth's diameter, which is about 9/100ths of an inch on an 18" globe.)
BrianC, change your fucking name IMMEDIATELY . I'll not have my name sullied by association with a fucking moron such as yourself. In fact, change your name to "Moron" so people will know who and what you fucking are.
Now, dammit! NOW!
That BrianC guy is fucking crazy, he thinks Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity/Glenn Beck/conservative radio are credible sources in the field of global warming.
The moderator on that forum seems pretty good though.
Are you really willing to bet your grandchildren's life on that?
And even if we were assigned as keepers of the Earth, you do REALLY think he'd be impressed with us treating it like a big frat house?
"If God put us here to take care of the earth, it would be as if the earth is more important than us"
It is more important than the human race though, infact we're no more important than any other species that are important for the balance of the eco system.
Scientists are not saying we could affect the Earth, they are saying we DO affect the Earth. The debate is just about how much, and if there is still time to do something to turn it back or if we are screwed already.
What we haven't proven is the existence of any gods, including your moon-god with delusions of grandeur.
The Earth is important, because it's the only planet we have to live on. It is more important than us, as it will be here long after we humans have pushed ourselves to extinction (unless we destroy it completely before that).
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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