@Troll4Life
"What are you wanting me to comment on?"
Ah, being evasive now, eh? But then, what should we expect from someone not prepared to take their so-called 'arguments' to their ultimate conclusion. In this case, if you'd clicked the link there, you'd go to the nub of my gist: If your concern for the unborn doesn't go beyond the womb, then it only proves you don't give a fuck for all the unwanted babies in the world. Otherwise you & your 'Pro-Life' ilk would be prepared to do so; there's only a finite number of people who are/would be prepared to foster/adopt after all.
And of course, there's the little matter of this:
http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/republican-list-of-paedophiles-shocking/
Especially this:
'Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.'
Oh yes, we know the real reason why the Religious Right - like you - are so opposed to abortion. Remember what you said in another thread:
"Here is the document I am thinking of. It is from the 1963 Congressional Record. Please pay careful attention to point 26. http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm"
To which my reply was:
'And here is the document you should be reading:
http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/republican-list-of-paedophiles-shocking/
Please pay attention to all it's points.'
So, that list proves the evil of the Religious Right/GOP; and an extremely long list it is too. It's not as if it's just one or two rotten apples in the barrel, but that the entire orchard is riddled with them; anyone not like them is the exception to the rule, it seems. And, like I say - you wonder why NAMBLA still exists? You'd think that the supposedly 'Christian', 'moral' GOP would have before now completely eliminated all traces of that vile nest of paedo vipers. You do the maths.
So, as you claimed in another thread 'Communists encouraging homosexuality in the US'? Like I say, the GOP - Grand Old Paedophiles secretly encourage child sex abuse in the US. Your point?
Thus my point: Put your own right-wing fundie house in order before you can even think you have the right to criticise anyone else's lifestyle - least of all that of gays.
Certainly on that basis, if your own Religious Right & Repubican Party (those who you vote for, and share the same political leanings & mindset - certainly their 'Christian Morals' and 'Family Values') is like this, then you don't even have the right to criticise Atheists, nor anyone not exactly like you. In perpetuity. Until you personally can clean up your own Religous Right's & Repubican/GOP's act (and house). Certainly in light of this:
http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/republican-list-of-paedophiles-shocking/
We now see the real reason why they're so opposed to abortion in the US (when being anti-abortion is purely Catholic doctrine. The Religious Right/GOP are Protestants; aren't they supposed to oppose Popery in all it's vile forms? You don't get this in most other countries - least of all here in the UK; the Church of England don't get all in a tizzy, US-style over abortion. Mayhaps because, by definition, the C-of-E were born as a result of direct opposition to the RCC and it's doctrine - King Henry VIII, and all that jazz?!)
Thus is proven the more than infinite evil of right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity. Certainly their 'morals', 'family values', and their politics. GOP = Grand Old Paedophiles.
Ergo, the infinite superiority of Left-wing Atheism. Q.E.D., bitch.
Your call, dearie.
@Troll4Life
"You say that I already think I have all of the answers, but the opposite is true. I am open to exploring the possibilites, but you guys seem unable or unwilling to even consider what God has said about the subject. I find that very troubling."
Methinks what you find 'troubling' is the fact that... ah yes, that's the real reason: Facts. The overwhelming evidence that frankly, destroys the 'metaphor', as you call it; remember dearie: The Bible is the literal 'Word of God'. If it's not all literal, then it's complete fictional fantasy bullshit from cover to cover. 'Adam' made from dirt, 'Eve' cloned from one of his ribs; the talking snake in Eden; Pi = exactly 3, insects having four legs, bats are birds, rabbits chew their cud, the list goes on...
Now this is the point where you're supposed to convince we Atheists that what the Bible says is absolute fact, dearie - with all the hard solid evidence to our satisfaction, and that we must believe it, or that 'God of Love' of yours that's supposed to exist (but with no evidence to our satisfaction that such exists; nor even a 'Hell' that we'll be eternally tortured in exists) will supposedly take our 'souls' (which again, there's absolutely no evidence that such exists to our satisfaction) and torture us for eternity. Go ahead:
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And that's not all:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
Whereupon we Atheists would reply thusly:
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'Yeah, yeah, read the book, bought the DVD & T-shirt a billion times already. Switch tracks on the CD dearie, this one's become boring very quickly. Heard it all before, yadda-yadda-yadda ad infinitum, ad nauseam, wash-rinse-repeat'
Now consider all the evidence for the rational, logical, secular, Atheist argument. It's all out there for you to discover (as I have). In Schools. Libraries. Archives. Laboratories. Observatories. Museums. TV documentaries. The WWW.
The Bible. Scientific fact. One of these things is not like the other. Which is it? Especially when you consider this simple, cold, hard fact:
You, like we Atheists, after experiencing brain-death by hypoxia, will ultimately end up cold & rotting in a box.
Also taking into account this:
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There's nothing you or any other fundie wingnut can say to persuade we Atheists otherwise. The scientific evidence is just too overwhelming - and too solid & tangible - for us to think otherwise. We're no longer scared of your insane psychological threats of a 'Hell', neither; again, because there's no proof to our satisfaction that it exists. We are no longer afraid. Three Words: Pascal's Wager, bitch.
*- PROTIP: The word 'Probably' was added to said slogan by the British Humanist Association, to conform with the Advertising Standards Authority's guidelines. That's the only reason.