Ron Prentice ("CEO" of of the California Family Council) #fundie

Ron Prentice ("CEO" of of the California Family Council) #fundie citizenlink.org

The marriage relationship – between only a man and a woman – is God-ordained. For thousands of years societies have endorsed and supported the marriage covenant because of the benefits that marriage provides to women, men, and especially children. Same-sex "marriage" is the most radical human experiment yet, putting children at risk and threatening generational stability! The purpose of marriage has been undermined so that now the Supreme Court of California has determined that marriage is only about two adults, Party A and Party B. If the traditional definition of marriage is not restored and placed into the California constitution, every child in public school will be indoctrinated to believe there is no difference between traditional and homosexual marriages, and “marriage” will continue its decline as an institution. This is precisely the goal of the pro-homosexual agenda.

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old comment by Horsefeathers

"The marriage relationship between only a man and a woman is God-ordained."

Odd then that it's only a rather recent development. Your Babble even shows direct examples against this idea.

"For thousands of years societies have endorsed and supported the marriage covenant because of the benefits that marriage provides to women, men, and especially children."

Bullshit. Until rather recently it was "one man and as many women as he could marry and a few mistresses on the side if he could afford it".

"Same-sex "marriage" is the most radical human experiment yet, putting children at risk and threatening generational stability!"

You seem to be under the impression that this is some new development. It is neither "new" or an "experiment" as other cultures throughout history have allowed it.

"The purpose of marriage has been undermined so that now the Supreme Court of California has determined that marriage is only about two adults, Party A and Party B."

And the problem is?

"If the traditional definition of marriage is not restored and placed into the California constitution, every child in public school will be indoctrinated to believe there is no difference between traditional and homosexual marriages, and “marriage” will continue its decline as an institution."

The traditional definition of "marriage" is more akin to "harem" than what you seem to think.

"This is precisely the goal of the pro-homosexual agenda."

I'd be rather interested to actually see this so-called "agenda" written out by one of you nutjobs. I'd like to know exactly what you believe it consists of and how a large group of people who are connected solely by their sexuality and nothing more would attempt to bring about such a diabolical plan as you believe they're doing.

I suspect it would be like trying to get every atheist in the world to come together and get something done when the only commonality we have is our disbelief in deities. I believe such a feat has been compared to herding cats.

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The marriage relationship between only a man and a woman is God-ordained.
Bullshit. Marriage is no more god-given than democracy, and this should be clear to anyone with an IQ of at least two digits.

For thousands of years societies have endorsed and supported the marriage covenant because of the benefits that marriage provides to women, men, and especially children.
For thousands of years societies have also endorsed forced marriage, women losing all rights upon marriage, and divorce being a no-no even in an abusive marriage. What the fuck is your point?

Same-sex "marriage" is the most radical human experiment yet
Do you believe this yourself? And are you unaware of the other cultures that have endorsed gay marriage? Christ, you're thick.

putting children at risk
Which is why you fundies scream so loudly about a bar on marriage for abusive parents, alcoholics, paedophiles, the mentally unstable, and carriers of contagious and/or diseases passed on genetically.

Oh, wait...

and threatening generational stability!
...da fuck?

The purpose of marriage has been undermined
The purupose of marriage remains - to encourage people who love each others to stay together for the benefit of them and society. Please explain to me how gay marriage changes this.

so that now the Supreme Court of California has determined that marriage is only about two adults, Party A and Party B.
I'm amazed that he didn't try to turn this upside-down somehow. Wow, honesty? From a fundie?

If the traditional definition of marriage is not restored and placed into the California constitution, every child in public school will be indoctrinated to believe there is no difference between traditional and homosexual marriages
Oh, but there are differences. For instance, studies have shown that children of two mothers are abused less frequently and perform better socially than do children of heterosexual parents.

and “marriage” will continue its decline as an institution.
I hate this bullshit attitude not just because it's insultingly stupid and bigoted, but because attacking scapegoats, be they Jews, socialists, left-handed people or homosexuals, means the real cause of the problem is not addressed.

This is precisely the goal of the pro-homosexual agenda.
The homosexual 'agenda' now, eh? As opposed to the fundie 'agenda'?

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/The marriage relationship between only a man and a woman is God-ordained./

Last time I checked, God didn't personally show up at my parents' wedding. They were ordained by three priests instead.

/For thousands of years societies have endorsed and supported the marriage covenant because of the benefits that marriage provides to women, men, and especially children. Same-sex "marriage" is the most radical human experiment yet, putting children at risk and threatening generational stability!/

You know, people once said the same thing about interracial marriage. They got over it - at least, most of them did.

/The purpose of marriage has been undermined so that now the Supreme Court of California has determined that marriage is only about two adults, Party A and Party B. If the traditional definition of marriage is not restored and placed into the California constitution,/

Oh, you mean, the idea of marriage practiced by David and Solomon, you know, the one with one man and many wives?

/every child in public school will be indoctrinated to believe there is no difference between traditional and homosexual marriages,/

*GASP!* The horror! Soon they will be indoctrinated into thinking that blacks and whites are equal, that men and women are equal, and that all differences between us are mostly on a superficial basis!

/and “marriage” will continue its decline as an institution./

Please explain Britney Spears' first marriage, then, which occurred years before the California judges made their ruling.

/This is precisely the goal of the pro-homosexual agenda./

So, homosexuals want to get married...to destroy marriage? Proof that logic is the boggart of fundies.

old comment by John

"The master-slave relationship between only a white master and a black slave is God-ordained. For thousands of years societies have endorsed and supported slavery because of the benefits that slavery provides to slave masters, the local economy and especially us white folks. Abolition is the most radical human experiment yet, putting cotton farmers at risk and threatening generational stability! The purpose of slavery has been undermined so that now the Emancipation Proclamation has determined that slavery is outlawed. If the traditional institution of slavery is not restored and placed into the Constitution, every child in public school will be indoctrinated to believe there is no difference between whites and blacks, and slavery will continue its decline as an institution. This is precisely the goal of the pro-abolition agenda."

Same stupid logic, circa 1863 ...

old comment by GigaGuess

The marriage relationship between only a man and a woman is God-ordained.
Which is why it must be executed in the presence of a priest, otherwise the state will not recognize it. Oh, wait, marriages happen all the time with no mention of god whatsoever! It's almost like it's a completely secular contract in the eyes of the state!

For thousands of years societies have endorsed and supported the marriage covenant because of the benefits that marriage provides to women, men, and especially children.
Except how that support is, and how the dynamics have been executed have been altered and thrown about for years. From a man, and as many wives and concubines as he can afford, to a man, and his "helpmeet" to...yeah. Marriage is hardly a static, unchanging state.

Same-sex "marriage" is the most radical human experiment yet, putting children at risk and threatening generational stability!
How do we put children at risk? I mean the children born to gay couples are just as adjusted as children of straight marriages...and if I'm not mistaken, learn values such as (horrors!) tolerance and acceptance. And the children who would be adopted...here's the thing. They are not taking children from a straight couple to give to a gay couple. They are giving homes to children who otherwise would not be placed. It's not the choice between heterosexual or homosexual parents, it's a choice between homosexual or NO parents. Can you say, with good conscience, that having two Dads is worse than having no real family whatsoever?

The purpose of marriage has been undermined so that now the Supreme Court of California has determined that marriage is only about two adults, Party A and Party B.
Abd the issue here is? No one's saying the church's definition must change. The church can completely ignore them if they choose. It alters the requirements of the LEGAL CONTRACT provided by the STATE from a man and a woman, to two consenting adults. I fail to see how that affects you at all.

If the traditional definition of marriage is not restored and placed into the California constitution, every child in public school will be indoctrinated to believe there is no difference between traditional and homosexual marriages, and “marriage” will continue its decline as an institution.
Traditional marriage, eh? How traditional are we talking? Again, a man, and his harem? A man and his chattel? A white man and a white woman? Please, you're going to have to specify here. Also, aside from the general structure, how do they differ? I mean aside from the fact that one will apparently bring about the end of the world as we know it...

This is precisely the goal of the pro-homosexual agenda.
Yes, us and wanting to be seen as equals...really we are so inconsiderate.

Ron Prentice ("CEO" of of the California Family Council) #fundie citizenlink.org

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