Bro. Randy #fundie

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

First, CoN[chronicles of narnia] is not a parable, and according to it's author, was never intended to be a parable and never intended to be Christian. Second, mythology is planly pagan. There is never an acceptable time to mix pagan worship with the things of God. Finally, since CoN contains paganism, and was never intended by it's author to be Christian, it is pagan.

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old comment by Papabear

"First, CoN[chronicles of narnia] is not a parable, and according to it's author, was never intended to be a parable and never intended to be Christian."
Be that as it may, I don't like the Narnia books anyway. "Second, mythology is planly pagan." So, you finally admit that your own Xian stories are but myths. That's great, BR.. Well done. "There is never an acceptable time to mix pagan worship with the things of God." Oops. I guess I spoke too soon. It seems you are still suffering from Xian delusions. "Finally, since CoN contains paganism, and was never intended by it's author to be Christian, it is pagan." How do you know it's pagan, unless you read it? And, if you did read it and you are still a hard-core, Fundie dinkwad, doesn't that show that reading the CoN isn't that dangerous?

old comment by Viridian

according to it's (sic) author, [The Chronicles of Narnia] was never intended to be a parable and never intended to be Christian
Wrong. From Wikipedia's entry on "The Chronicles of Narnia": Although he did not set out to do so, in the process of writing his fantasy works, Lewis (an adult convert to Christianity) found himself incorporating Christian theological concepts into his stories. As he wrote in Of Other Worlds: “Some people seem to think that I began by asking myself how I could say something about Christianity to children; then fixed on the fairy tale as an instrument, then collected information about child psychology and decided what age group I’d write for; then drew up a list of basic Christian truths and hammered out allegories’ to embody them. This is all pure moonshine. I couldn’t write in that way. It all began with images; a faun carrying an umbrella, a queen on a sledge, a magnificent lion. At first there wasn’t anything Christian about them; that element pushed itself in of its own accord.” Lewis, an expert on the subject of allegory, maintained that the books were not allegory, and preferred to call the Christian aspects of them "suppositional". This is similar to what we would now call fictional parallel universes. As Lewis wrote in a letter to a Mrs Hook in December of 1958: “If Aslan represented the immaterial Deity in the same way in which Giant Despair [a character in The Pilgrim's Progress] represents despair, he would be an allegorical figure. In reality, however, he is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question, What might Christ become like if there really were a world like Narnia, and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?’ This is not allegory at all.” (Martindale & Root 1990)

old comment by Julian

From the FFRF bible Quiz...
30. What Christmas tradition is expressly forbidden in the bible? A. Singing carols house-to-house. B. Exchanging gifts. C. Christmas trees. --Many other Christmas traditions have their roots in pagan practices, such as the holly wreath, a fertility symbol. Even the date of Christmas, near the winter solstice, is linked to sun worship. Modern Christians have stolen Christmas from the pagans. "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. . . . They are altogether brutish and foolish." (Jeremiah 10:2-8) D. Kissing under the mistletoe. _____________________________________ In conclusion - Randy, you suck balls!

old comment by Morgan

and according to it's author, was never intended to be a parable and never intended to be Christian
Wrong. Lewis himself pretty much said that Aslan was supposed to be Christ himself, as he would have been in Narnia. It's fiction, yeah, but then so is Christ's canonical appearance. So how about you actually read up on things before you go opening your mouth? There is never an acceptable time to mix pagan worship with the things of God. Is this why Christianity stole so many things from pagan mythologies? Is this why, when Christianity was first introduced into Ireland, they bascially said that people could keep their old traditions, as long as the recognized the Christian go as being superior? This was changed later on, of course, but intially it was so. Do you know anything about the history of your religion, Randy?

old comment by Resurrectionist

You're right, C.S. Lewis did in fact once right that he never intended Narnia to be a parable.
"Some people seem to think that I began by asking myself how I could say something about Christianity to children; then fixed on the fairy tale as an instrument, then collected information about child psychology and decided what age group I’d write for; then drew up a list of basic Christian truths and hammered out allegories’ to embody them. This is all pure moonshine. I couldn’t write in that way. It all began with images; a faun carrying an umbrella, a queen on a sledge, a magnificent lion." You also, however, seem to have a very suspicious case of selective amnesia when it comes to the very next line of the above quote. "At first there wasn’t anything Christian about them; that element pushed itself in of its own accord.” Not that a good fundie like you would ever conveniently ignore something like that, now would you?

old comment by Anonymous

"First, CoN[chronicles of narnia] is not a parable, and according to it's author, was never intended to be a parable and never intended to be Christian.

Oh, I don't know, Aslan, the simultaneously gentle and fierce lion, going off to sacrifice himself to save Edmund, a SINNER, who also stabbed his brother and sisters in the back, doesn't remind you of anyone in the Bible? Susan and Lucy being referred to as "daughters of Eve" and Peter and Edmund as "sons of Adam" doesn't contain any Christian references? I'd think that at least you'd like the White Witch, since you fundies so frequently seem to connect women with the devil.

Second, mythology is planly pagan. There is never an acceptable time to mix pagan worship with the things of God.

So you're admitting that Narnia has Christian elements in it? Kind of defeats your previous words, eh? Besides, as others have said before, main Christian holidays have plenty of pagan elements in them. I guess you never celebrated Christmas or Easter as a kid.

Finally, since CoN contains paganism, and was never intended by it's author to be Christian, it is pagan."

First of all, it's "its" not "it's." Second of all, unless you're talking about the fauns, nymphs, talking animals, and other fantastical creatures in Narnia, it's difficult to see the books as embodiments of paganism, especially since the author was Christian. Get a grip.

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