Here's the really cool thing, 4.5 billion yrs ago the suns diameter would have been about the size of our solar system. Can't figure out the planet part, but that's just me I suppose. Can't figure out the, first there was nothing, then it exploded and here we are part — order from chaos. (Evolution, what an amazing religion)
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Here's the really cool thing, 4.5 billion yrs ago the suns diameter would have been about the size of our solar system.
Huh? Citations badly needed.
Can't figure out the planet part, but that's just me I suppose.
I have a feeling there are a lot of things you "can't figure out".
Can't figure out the, first there was nothing, then it exploded and here we are part
order from chaos.
That is such a gross oversimplification of the Big Bang theory that it's just sad. There was not 'nothing' and it wasn't a literal 'explosion'.
(Evolution, what an amazing religion)
And the Big Bang theory exists independently from evolution, which also happens to be anything but a religion.
In summary, you're a fucking dunce.
No, the sun's diameter was never the size of the solar system, so that's your first fail.
The solar system was a swirling mass of matter, and what was in the center of that swirling mass became the sun, and the smaller masses became planets.
Your next fail was equating celestial dynamics with evolution. No DNA in stellar material. Also, evolution isn't a religion. Only Fundies try to claim it is.
Here's the really cool thing, you're completely wrong.
4.5 billion yrs ago the suns diameter would have been about the size of our solar system.
Wrong. The disc of dust and gas that formed our solar system might have been that large, but the sun never was.
Can't figure out the planet part, but that's just me I suppose.
The dust and gas that didn't collapse and start fusing in the centre (aka the sun) formed planets and moons. Simple.
Can't figure out the, first there was nothing, then it exploded and here we are part
order from chaos. (Evolution, what an amazing religion)
1) That's not evolution, that's the big bang you're whining about.
2) That's not what the big bang theory states. First there was a singularity which began to rapidly expand outward. There was no "nothing" nor was there any explosion.
At least take the time to learn about theories before you try to disprove them.
*sigh*
My technical knowledge of astrophysics is pretty limited, but the way I understand it (and please anyone correct me) is that (in the absolute simplest terms) when a solar system forms you get a star with an accretion disk. In our system, Jupiter happened to snatch away most of the rest of what remained after the sun was formed.
I suppose, in a very limited sense, you could say the sun encompassed the solar system if we were at the point before the sun itself formed (I think)
so have you got any maths to back this insanity or is it just the effect of too many shrooms
Can't figure out the planet part,
hey we cant figure out your insane thinking
this my freinds is what happen when people mate with vegetables!!!!
I'm assuming that they based the size of the sun's diameter on some kind of linear progression as it gradually burns off some of the excess hydrogen.
It reminds me of the statement that, when Elvis Presley died, there were only a handful of Elvis impersonators. Twenty years later, there were thousands, so at this rate, within fifty years one out of every three people on earth will be an Elvis impersonator...
I get so tired of these knuckle-draggers who don't realize Evolution deals with Biology and planet/star formation deals with astrophysics.
Evolution has nothing to say about the Big Bang, galaxy formation, planetary bodies, or the birth and death of stars.
[Here's the really cool thing, 4.5 billion yrs ago the suns diameter would have been about the size of our solar system.]
No, the really cool thing is that science proves that you're full of shit.
[Can't figure out the planet part, but that's just me I suppose.]
I also suppose that it's just you.
[Can't figure out the, first there was nothing, then it exploded and here we are part
order from chaos. ]
Join the club.
[(Evolution, what an amazing religion)]
*sigh*. I could tell to you why you're wrong. I could patiently explain why that statement was so terribly, terribly ignorant. But you wouldn't listen, would you?
Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took
Don't know much about geography
Don't know much trigonometry
Don't know much about algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for
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_________________________________Sam Cooke
You've confused the concepts of Cosmology and Biology.
Get a clue and check your facts before making a fool of yourself. Now that you have access to the Internet and Google, you have no excuse at all.
The dust-cloud from which the sun and planets did indeed initially cover an area greater than that of the current solar system. You can see the same thing if you look at pictures of nebulas where star systems are forming right now.
The formation of the Solar System is a different phenomenon from the formation of the entire universe.
As far as matter appearing from nothingness, that also happens right now. Look up 'virtual particles' and 'Casimir Effect'.
Likewise, hard though you find it to be, order does spontaneously appear from chaos. Consider the majestic structures of tornados arising from ordinary air, moisture and heat.
If evolution is a religion, lets see you support it becoming tax free!
"Here's the really cool thing, 4.5 billion yrs ago the suns diameter would have been about the size of our solar system."
Stop reading Hovind, or whichever creationist moron you got this from. The sun is not "shrinking" on the order you've been told, the data used to determine this claim is known to be faulty and you can't extrapolate backwards in time the way the creationists attempt to.
Yes, the sun is shrinking--but it also grows slightly too. It's cyclical. The sun, if I remember correctly, has "shrunk" about 1% since it formed.
"Can't figure out the, first there was nothing, then it exploded and here we are part
order from chaos."
Nothing "exploded" you fucking rube. It expanded. Big fucking difference.
As to your "order from chaos" quip, so what? You're misunderstanding the second law first of all and second of all, ever seen a snowflake?
You refer to Hypothesis outdated decades ago.
There was de facto a hypothesis in the 60sor70s that sun shrinks, but nowadays we know that the sun repeatedly undergoes cycles of shrinking and expanding.
Of course, as it is habit with you fundies, you ignore the newer research and stick with the older one, as it better fits your agenda ;)
The protoplanetary disk.
Vacuum physics.
Eh, why bother?
Eden said:
"There was de facto a hypothesis in the 60sor70s that sun shrinks, but nowadays we know that the sun repeatedly undergoes cycles of shrinking and expanding."
Maybe it shrinks after it's been swimming?
Can't figure out the, first there was nothing, then it exploded and here we are part
You can't figure out why some light goes through the window and some reflects back into the room, either. Does that mean God must sit there and tell every photon in the universe whether it should bounce off the window (your watch crystal, your beer glass, etc.) or go through it? No wonder He doesn't have time to do important stuff like curing cancer or stopping tornadoes.
There's a reason why the "God of the Gaps" argument is considered a fallacy.
"Can't figure out the planet part, but that's just me I suppose. "
No. There are many of you. Stupidity is common.
(You're a cunt too)
Mad?
No, more like stupid.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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