In another sickening move, Gov. David Paterson (D-NY) just announced within the last hour that the state of New York would now recognize gay marriages.
I must say that I am VERY disappointed and deeply saddened by this. I support civil unions, but I do not and will never support or recognize a same-sex marriage.
This makes 3 states I could never live in (Massachusetts, California, and now New York).
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"This makes 3 states I could never live in (Massachusetts, California, and now New York)."
I wonder what he's going to do when there are no homophobic states left? I can imagine him living on a tiny rock a few feet off the coast of the U.S, holding a sign saying "The REAL America: no queers!"
I wouldn't say this is particularly fundie, but indeed somewhat homophobic.
Still, at least this person won't come to my country, as we have same-sex marriage country-wide.
You forgot Vermont, dipshit. Come on, Colorado, get with the program. (Trouble with gay marriage in CO is those 'Focusing On Everyone Else's Families Except Our Own' asshats down in The Springs.
Supports civil unions? Oooh, Fundie with nuance.
So, you are okay with gay people being together, as long as you don't call it marriage. And calling it marriage is a high offense to you that you are willing to judge the merit of the entire state upon whether or not it does so. Your priorities are messed up.
It's a fundy that supports civil unions, though. That's kind of strange.
Just more of their goalpost-moving.
They can't deny observable evolution, so they call it "micro-evolution" and pretend there's a difference.
Likewise they can no longer deny gay relationships (at least the ones who want to pretend that they "love the sinner, hate the sin"), so they call it "civil unions" and pretend that's enough.
The funny thing is always that they're the ones who insist "civil unions are exactly the same as marriage except for the name" when gay couples demand gay marriages, then make a big deal about how they can't have the name because it's different and needs to stay different. Often in the same breath.
"Oh no, the state government passed a law that won't affect me in any way whatsoever! I guess I can't live there now!"
Yeah, I don't get it either...
From Wikipedia...
Connecticut, Vermont, New Jersey, and New Hampshire have created legal unions that, while not called marriages, are explicitly defined as offering all the rights and responsibilities of marriage under state (though not federal) law to same-sex couples. Maine, Hawaii, the District of Columbia, Oregon and Washington have created legal unions for same-sex couples that offer varying subsets of the rights and responsibilities of marriage under the laws of those jurisdictions.
Hate to say it, but there's a lot more states you probably won't live in there B.O.
Sickening? Nah, its just the first step to the state doing the right thing.
Also these civil unions, are they like the UK ones (marriage in all but name) or from what i gather the typical US ones (some of the rights of marriage, but you have to really leap through hoops to get them recognised)?
For some reason i think its the latter....
"This makes 3 states I could never live in (Massachusetts, California, and now New York). "
Let's see if we can make it 50.
I can imagine him living on a tiny rock a few feet off the coast of the U.S, holding a sign saying "The REAL America: no queers!
That mental image really brightened my day! Thanks!
Believe me, buddy, we don't want you.
Not to dampen anyone's spirits, but I think that Paterson technically said that NY would recognize gay marriages made elsewhere, meaning other states, not those in New York. But hopefully, this new step will pave the way to my state joining Massachusetts and California in recognizing and performing homosexual marriages. I really hope that we can do it, so that instead of being on national news for our now ex-governor being involved in a prostitution scandal, we can be on headline news for affirming gay rights by legalizing gay marriage. When that happens (and I do hope that it's a "when" and not an "if"), I will be VERY satisfied and deeply happy by this.
Actually, come to think of it, it'll be rather ironic. Massachussetts not only has legalized gay marriage, but it has a black governor, like we now do. Coincidence? Ah, to live in a fundie's nightmare.
@Thinking Allowed: And BOY am I glad about Oregon... finally, something sensible that my state's done...
Oregon's got some gorgeous coast, and the Willamette makes some delicious wines, but 'half-marriage' civil unions, while better than nothing, are still a second-class mockery of equal rights.
Suits me fine. We don't want you in Massachusetts, and I don't think my sister wants an asshole like you living near her in New York, either. It seems most of New England also has civil unions, so you may want to steer clear of this corner of the country altogether.
Technicaly NY only recognises marriages from say Canada, or california. You can't have a homosexual wedding in NY and have it be legal, but ones from elsewhere are recognized.
It is also questionable if the govenor had much choice as there had already been a court decision recognising a couple married in canada.
I'll be nice to the poor fundies: give them one state to live in, just one. Let's give them Utah. Its filled with enough fundies already, and it isn't big enough to have much of an effect on elections. The rest of us can just enjoy life without them!
Hypothetically, if the supreme court wised up and made gay marriage legal, could the government force a church to marry a gay/lesbiean couple?
Religious groups have pretty wide leeway over who they can choose to perform marriages for. Catholic priests, for instance, won't perform marriages for divorced people, while some denominations already perform same-sex marriages. The law is only concerned with civil marriage, which is a separate institution -- more reason to call bullshit on the people who cite religious opposition to equality in legal marriage.
"This makes 3 states I could never live in (Massachusetts, California, and now New York)."
I'm sure the residents of said states are relieved.
"This makes 3 states I could never live in (Massachusetts, California, and now New York)."
Oh good, please, stay out. Wish my state was on that list as well.
You will never recognize a same-sex marriage?
So? Who are you that your recognition or lack thereof matters to anyone?
And, if this person hasn't moved out the country by now, they're a hypocrite.
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