I like Ham, he's brilliant and his ideas are consice. I don't swallow everything, only what makes sense. He made sense, checking facts... he's a Christian and I'm sure if he's running a business as big as Answers in Genesis, he would not be making up or distorting things, or scientists would be all over him. I'm not slinging out remarks just to read them, I can write it on paper. He simplifies it for the audience, not distorts it. If he gave them the full science, they would be overwhelmed and not understand a thing he'd be saying.
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or scientists would be all over him.
This knocked me out of my chair laughing.
He does make things up and distort other things, and scientists are all over him.
Anyone who approaches his audience with the presumption that they're too ignorant to fathom the whole truth, shouldn't be speaking. The idea behind simplification is to make the whole thing easier -- to excise everything but the easy parts, and leave the rest out because it's too hard, is distortion.
Scientists ARE all over Ham, like a swarm of ants at a pork picnic. He just censors out any posts to his own site that he doesn't want you to see. Try checking out a few other sites from time to time, by REAL scientists and science organizations, and search for Ken Ham's name (and/or search for keywords concerning the things he says) to see what is said about him and his so-called science.
Is there a "P.T. Barnum" Award we can give this guy?
~David D.G.
"If he gave them the full science, they would be overwhelmed and not understand a thing he'd be saying."
It's so refreshing to have a fundie admit that maybe lotsa fundies are, shall we say, intellectually challenged when it comes to following rational arguments.
Our classical mechanics professor always said that if someone, like a teacher or scientist or something, is not able to explain the most complicated thing to the most uneducated individual, then that person (the teacher/scientist) does not really know and understand that thing.
So, if this Ham guy is skipping things, it's not 'cause he think the audience won't understand it, but because he doesn't get them himself.
"he's a Christian and I'm sure if he's running a business as big as Answers in Genesis, he would not be making up or distorting things, or scientists would be all over him."
ER - he does make things up and distort them, and scientists are all over him. Even star wars fans are all over him.
"If he gave them the full science, they would be overwhelmed and not understand a thing he'd be saying."
I've noticed that about fundies.
That epitomizes the mentality of the fundy. Don't think or interpret anything for yourself because it is too much work. It is better, in the mind of a Fundy, to latch onto the ideas of someone who can do all that thinking for you. We are dealing with a class of people hear who refuse to seek understanding and want to take the easy way. They embrace ingorance and shun knowledge (unless it is in a "simplified" form from a trusted source). They are simple minded and see the world in black and white with no shades of grey. This also explains why they insist on a literal intrepetation of the bible - words mean only one thing to them and symbolism and metaphore are alien concepts.
They truely are a simple minded lot.
If he gave them the full science, they would be overwhelmed and not understand a thing he'd be saying.
For people with the bare minimum of high school science, it is bloody difficult comprehending what all of them edumacated science type folk are talking about. The fantastic thing about the Internet is the number of resources that can assist in understanding all this stuff. Sure, you're never going to be at the level of a college bio grad, but you'll at least know enough not to be taken in by shuysters peddling creationism and ID.
"I'm not slinging out remarks just to read them, I can write it on paper."
Woohoo! LordDinkwad "can write it on paper."
"If he gave them the full science, they would be overwhelmed and not understand a thing he'd be saying."
If he gave them the full science, he'd have to admit he's been a lying asshole.
... he's a Christian and I'm sure if he's running a business as big as Answers in Genesis, he would not be making up or distorting things, or scientists would be all over him. At the same time, it makes perfect sense to believe that the entire science establishment is perpetuating the vast fraud of evil-utionism (or whatever the vast fraud is this week) and getting away with it.
He doesn´t check ANYTHING. To begin with, he says that the Genesis was written by eye-witnesses, and who is that eye-witness(in singular), IF ADAM AND EVE WERE THE FIRST HUMAN BEINGS?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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