[Regarding the Navy yard shooter]
It’s now clear, if it wasn’t before, that violent video games are a definite menace to society. So, Americans must ask themselves, “When are we going to end the violent video game madness?”
We must wean our young people away from these violent video games, and into more profitable pursuits. We must stop blaming guns for our problems, and start dealing with the troubled and evil people using the guns and the politically correct authorities who fail to enforce the laws already on the books.
Also, we must end the arbitrary judicial bans on religious and moral teaching in our schools that deprive America’s children of the Ten Commandments that God gave Moses and the Hebrew people on Mount Sinai and the teachings that Jesus Christ gave his disciples in the Sermon on the Mount in Chapters Five through Seven of the Gospel of Matthew and in Chapters 13 through 17 of the Gospel of John.
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First off, studies have shown no correlation between violent video games and actual violent behavior. Second (as usual), you're forgetting the millions of people who play those games on a regular basis and would never even consider committing an act of violence.
GTA5 is setting records worldwide in sales. Of the people who bought it, how many do you think will actually go out and kidnap, rob banks or steal cars?
Answer: Only the ones who had the desire to do so already. Video games do not make people do anything.
I don't blame guns, I blame the attitude towards them and a flippant disregard for any consequence that can be shunted to a scapegoat.
Like you're doing right now, actually, in addition to shamelessly pushing your own agenda.
When I can vent my frustration in a round of Halo why would I ever go out and shoot up a school or city park? I don't find the screams of children or people shooting very real bullets back at me to be fun or entertaining.
Nobody is blaming guns for your problems. They are, however, questioning the availability of guns and the role of such availability in exacerbating your problems. Sheesh, keep up.
I have to agree to some extent on the video games. Excessive video game playing is a problem, it not only desensitizes kids, but also makes the obese and undereducated (playing instead of studying or playing outside with bikes and footballs).
Moderate play is fine. It goes without saying that being able to work out some stress or anger by blasting away at imaginary characters certainly beats taking it out on real people. But your attitude and others like you are why we still have so many mass shootings these days. YES guns are the problem, no matter what kind of a spin you sexually frustrated neo-cons try to put on it. Take then out of the equation and see how much the violence drops. It seemed to work for the rest of the developed world, why wouldn't it work here?
We must wean our young people away from these violent video games
We must wean our young people away from these violent stories about soldiers torturing and murdering innocent civilians.
No, I don't mean video games or reports on the My Lai Massacre, I mean that horrible story in the Bible, the one that gives kids nightmares. You know, that violent story about Jesus' excecution.
This must stop! It's putting strange and violent ideas in our childrens' heads.
I love how he went from "...enforce the laws already on the books. "
To
"we must end the arbitrary judicial bans on religious and moral teaching in our schools"
Way to sell yourself short there pal!
We must stop blaming guns for our problems
We must uphold the Constitution!
we must end the arbitrary judicial bans on religious and moral teaching in our schools
The problem is the Constitution!
How did you arrive at video games, when a former soldier used genuine guns to shot active soldiers, usually armed with guns, on a military base filled with guns?
Do you have bans on religion classes in the US? That sounds strange, but isn't religion something that you are more or less brought up with; the parents often teach their kids about it at home. I live in one of the most secular and non-religious countries in the world. I was still not "deprived of the Ten Commandments", nor the teachings of Jesus. I learned it all in Religion classes. Btw, why do you specify those chapters? Why not teach the whole Bible? Don't you want to teach the children about God's plan for the Amalekites? (1 Sam. 15:2-3) Or is that too much moral for you?
What a great idea! And what about those who do not accept the Christian Gospel? Or those particular Gospels? Or disagree with your interpretation of the Gospel? And what about the rules about when the Sabboth is? How about the rules about mixed fiber clothing, food, cutting your hair and so on?
Or is this just another hidden attempt to proselytise your particular flavor of Christer in the schools we ALL pay for?
Personally, I think we should all follow the moral teachings in the Loose Cannon, the holy book of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Have you been touched by His Noodly Appendage?
Folks,it's time to find a new angle. I play the occasional GTA,God of War,DMC & others. I also enjoy Stephen King novels, along with Dexter & Bret Easton Ellis, often while cranking some badass noisy metal. Still haven't offed anyone.
Background checks are unconstitutional! Creating laws on what sort of guns you can have is unconstitutional! If I want a machine gun that can shoot off 50 bullets without reloading, whose business is it other than mine? I mean, I'm never going to use it for its intended purpose; I'm just going to stare at it all day and masturbate!
The only way a video game will encourage you to be violent is if there is already something wrong with you. In which case, in the absence of video games, you'll just find something else to fuel your delusions.
And you know what? If we did take the guns away from mentally ill people, then it wouldn't matter if video games did encourage violence. On account of there would be no way for them to inflict said violence on others.
Studies call bullshit on your assertion.
At worst, violent video games can cause an increase in aggression, which is usually temporary. Even if it's not, aggression does not explain a full shooting rampage.
I don't necessarily know how much of an effect gun control will actually have, and I have no problem with those who are against gun control, What I do have a problem with is that so many people are against even the DISCUSSION of the idea.
Regardless of whether or not video games cause violence, making something illegal will not make it go away. Then again, based upon your idea, how 'bout, since many wars are caused by religious disageements, we outlaw religion?
"It’s now clear, if it wasn’t before, that violent video games are a definite menace to society. So, Americans must ask themselves, “When are we going to end the violent video game madness?” "
Real guns don't kill people, imaginary videogame guns kill people.
@Swede
We must stop blaming guns for our problems
Because there were never any shootings before video games, nosiree...
Before making a move on video games, I think we first need a ban on overly long sentences.
Seriously, that last sentence... try reading that in a single breath without feeling faint!
@LefthandedWriter:
"@Swede
Actually there is a problem with religion class.
The Lord, our God, has issued these fifteen comm ... <oops ... crash> uh, ten, ten commandments.
Indeed there IS a problem with religion classes. I live in the Bible Belt, and various flavors of Christian fundies were so horrified at the idea of a class teaching us about Islam or anything else (even *GASP* them Buddha-worshippin' heathens in Asia) that the first time I was able to take a religion class was when I needed a humanities credit for my Bachelor's degree. I took one "World Religions" and one "The Bible as Literature"... the World Religions professor was so worried about causing controversy that he wouldn't say a condemnatory word about any religion and he left The Big Three for the very last month of class so that it was way too late for anyone to storm out in a fit of fury. The whole last week was spent just naming off various flavors of Christians. I've never been more confused in my life than I was trying to figure out the difference between an Episcopalian, a Methodist, a Presbyterian, and a Lutheran.
That is all for my thread-derailing rant. Thank you.
@breakerslion
For a generalized formula, it's
"Insert entertainment device that the generation of the complainer didn't have" IS CORRUPTING OUR YOUTH.
Because no Christian ever became a mass murderer.
Certainly no good, fundamentalist Christian like Timothy McVeigh would ever consider murdering anyone.
Oh boy this nonsense. Violent video games do not cause violent behavior. At most they MAY increase aggresion, similar to sports and other competitve activites.
"It’s now clear, if it wasn’t before, that religion is a definite menace to society. So, Americans must ask themselves, “When are we going to end this religious madness?”
We must wean our young people away from this cultish agenda, and into more intelligent pursuits. We must stop blaming evolution and modern science for our problems, and start dealing with the troubled and evil people forcing their particular religion into our school science classes."
Fixed.
"Also, we must end the arbitrary judicial bans on religious and moral teaching in our schools that deprive America’s children of the Ten Commandments that God gave Moses and the Hebrew people on Mount Sinai and the teachings that Jesus Christ gave his disciples in the Sermon on the Mount in Chapters Five through Seven of the Gospel of Matthew and in Chapters 13 through 17 of the Gospel of John."
Yeah, we need to teach everyone that the only good violence is Old Testament violence, like stoning unruly children, killing those that work on the sabbath, killing entire towns if even one within worships another god, forcing women to marry their rapists, you know, good religious god-loving violence like that.
Yes, because more god and less games would have definitely have convinced the shooter that he was not in fact receiving microwave transmissions from the government telling him to kill.It's fucking ridiculous that when an untreated mentally ill person shoots a bunch of people, half the nations totally rejects the idea the poor mental health care and lax background checks for firearms have anything to do with it.
So...violent video games are creating bad guys with guns. And the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. That's why we need more guns. Oh yes, and more god.
Yeah, totally clear. It's the video games that are the problem. Not the near unfettered access to guns, video games. Those evil, evil video games.
Really sad when you wanna sell the first amendment down the river to protect the second amendment.
My favorite part about shit like this is how little they actually know about video games.
Swedish kids (and adults) play video games too. (Our right-wing government is even saying that kids ought to play less, and do more homework, and our PISA score will shot up to the top again. But, kids were playing video games when our PISA score was in the top too, strangely enough. Why not incorporate the video games in the education instead? Perhaps play famous battles in history classes.) Sorry, side track, back again.
You know how many school shooters Sweden has had? None, to my knowledge, so far. It's fairly hard to get your hand on a gun in Sweden, and guns must be kept in gun-safes, with the ammunition somewhere else.
Yeah, because it's way better to have kids read about all of the killing, raping, etc, of men women (including women that are pregnant), children, infants and animals in the old testament.
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
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