Rick Santorum #fundie

Rick Santorum #fundie msnbc.com

“Why are Bibles no longer in public schools? Don’t give me the Supreme Court. The reason Bibles are no longer in the public schools is because we let them take them out of the public schools.”

He added a variation on President Obama’s campaign chant: “You say, ‘Well we can’t get them back in.’ Yes we can. Yes we can!”
“How much are you willing to sacrifice?” the Republican continued. “One person got the Bibles out of the schools. We have more than one person here! But you’ve got to have the same passion in preserving our country as they do to transform it.”

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old comment by Canadiest

@blackrat

"These people are just furious that it isn't being analyzed thoroughly like Shakespeare"

Oh they don't want it analyzed, this is the fundamentalist/ Right wing Catholic approach, they don't want anyone to read it even. They want someone to lead all into the cherry picked verses of relevance that will train these kids to obey, serve the church, restrict and discriminate and get ready for war.

They want respect for waving this Bible around, something still dead common in fundamentalist circles, reading it's completely irrelevant. Telling people you live by it, waving it around as you do that, that's the ticket, pagemarking twenty of so pre-picked sections and repeating them your whole life.

Wearing mixed clothing at a crayfish bake at your local Baptist church, waving a tattered Bible about as you shamelessly display your hypocrisy. That's 'merican Godlyness.

old comment by Dr. Razark

I have a bible sitting on my desk here at the office. It's been there for a couple of years. I haven't started believing in it again yet.

I also have a couple of bibles at home. I've told my kids they should read it, especially if they are going to profess that they do not believe it.

I see no problems with having the bible taught in schools. Teach it as literature. Include it in a comparative world religions course. As long as you don't demand that it gets special treatment, or is taught as truth, then go for it. I'd love to see that backfire on you as people read the bible in a nonreligious context and realize how full of dumb it is.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"Why are Bibles no longer in public schools? Don’t give me the Supreme Court."

...then don't give us religion. Fair's fair. The Establishment Clause, and all that jazz; We don't think in your churches, you don't pray in our schools.

The Conservative Christian Judge John E. Jones III, in deciding [I]for[/I] the plaintiffs in Kitzmiller vs. Dover a decade ago, was doing exactly as Obama stated in his campaign; and - as he was personally appointed to the Federal bench in 2002 by the Repubican George Dumbya Bush - with great foresight too.

Unless you want China to overtake you lot in terms of technological superiority, you go right ahead; one doesn't learn how to perform Cyberattacks - raping commercial/financial/military/intelligence databases - by reading a book of fairytales: the Bible, you know. No religion allowed in the PRC's educational system. In Soviet China, God worships you.

Judge Jones is preserving your country's technological superiority, by what he did ten years ago, despite you & all your fundie ilk's butthurt over the Bible being proved wrong. Like I say: if you want to become inferior to the upcoming & Atheist superpower that is China - to sacrifice your own advancement to them - you go right ahead. Only, don't drag the rest of the 21st Century & non-fundie USA with you into your own self-induced fundie Dark Age.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Goomy pls

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Jones_III#Kitzmiller_v._Dover

'In 2008, Judge Jones was awarded the American Humanist Association’s Humanist Religious Liberty Award at the World Humanist Congress in Washington, DC. In his acceptance speech, Judge Jones explained how he was blasted by Bill O'Reilly, Phyllis Schlafly, and Ann Coulter for the Kitzmiller decision. Judge Jones also remarked on the shortcomings of civics education and how the American public tends to have a limited understanding of the Constitution and the importance of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment and separation of church and state established by the Founding Fathers of the United States.'

Just as - via him still using the pre-1954 Pledge of Allegiance, which omits the words 'Under God', which is still valid - Jimmy Carter is proof there are non-fundie Baptists out there, and Dr. Buzz Aldrin is a devout Christian who can reconcile his beliefs with proven scientific fact, there are the likes of the Honourable Judge John E. Jones III: Conservatives who aren't dicks.

In the same way, Edward Heath was the last of the true Conservatives in the UK. Even before her rise to power, he had an absolute loathing for the Antichrist Maggie Thatcher (*spit*), so even though I've voted Labour all my life, he was someone on the opposite end of the political spectrum I could respect.

No wonder Judge Jones received that award, then. And deservedly so And as for the news update you gave me, no doubt his star will be on the ascendant, with Equal Rights groups, and the majority of people as a whole in the US: progressives. If the moderate Republicans were to finally purge themselves of the wingnut elements, mayhaps he represents the future of that party, should he run for political office...?

Rick Santorum #fundie msnbc.com

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