[The bible is not a textbook of fact you have got to stop hiding behind it. Form your own opinions instead of quoting passages]
Folks, this is why so many people have been decieved by cATHOLICS. They want to believe the traditions of men instead of following the Word of God. Sometimes, the Word of God is not the easiest way to follow, but for the saint, for the believer, it is the only way!
By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble!
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> "if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble!"
It's great to see people who think the babble is the absolute complete truth, because then you get to ask them fun things like where the talking donkeys and burning bushes are, why plants were created before stars, how come the earth isn't flat, and why Noah took animals both two by two AND seven by seven.
"Two men say they're jesus/One of them must be wrong" Dire Straits Industial Disease
You're in serious trouble.
They want to believe the traditions of men instead of following the Word of God. understanding of the words God chose to say, which may or may not have been literally precise. Furthermore, they are distant copies of the original scriptures, and have been translated multiple times. No language can be exactly translated into another. Some people claim the Bible is the literal Word of God and others say "not so".
if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar
Bro. Randy wouldn't have made much of a detective. There are many other possibilities, even for faithful Christians. I offer a few: God told the truth but the people who wrote it down were liars or misunderstood Him; God simplified things in order to explain complex concepts to ignorant humanity; God left things hidden from us for His own purposes; we lost, forgot or miscopied things God told us; God, like Jesus, spoke in parables or metaphores that we may misunderstand or take too literally; people later added or changed what God said to agree with what they wanted God to say, in order to give God's stamp of approval to their own opinions.
@Bro. Randy
By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble!
"This fellow desperately wants to NOT think for himself; he wants something else to think for him. That's why he substitutes biblical passages for any actual thought; that way he can shift responsibility over to God!"
By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble!
"By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble!"If God exists and the Bible is his word, then God IS a liar and we are in serious trouble.
Fortunately, God is a fiction and you are the liar.
Well, I´m a Catholic and proud of it. I don´t believe in speaking animals, incest, genocide and a man who becomes a whimp because he´s shave. Thank God.
A few things:By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble! "
Thing is, God's proven to be a liar a page into the bible when he tells Adam not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, "or you shall surely die" he said. Well, since Adam clearly didn't die, guess what? God's a liar.
2) That Bible, which you so love, was written by Catholics . Think about that for a minute. The entire reason the Protestants split from the Catholic church was because the Catholics were just so damn corrupt. They let people buy their way into Heaven, they were so corrupt. Do you think that altering the bible was beyond their corruption? Changing it, to give them more power over the public? After all, the more people are alike, the easier it is that they could be controlled, right? And so when you broke off from the Catholic church, guess what?, you took that corrupted bible with you .
3) "They want to believe the traditions of men instead of following the Word of God. "
Well, since the bible's obviously been tampered with, you haven't been following the Word of God, either. You've been following the Words of corrupt men who died hundreds of years ago.
By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar non sequitur , because the Bible isn't even close to "the absolute, complete truth".
Well, you call God a liar. As far as I am concerned, you surely mix fabrics, don´t you?, and you don´t purify yourself after sneezing or pissing or having nocturnal pollution?, and you think selling a daughter into prostitution is inmoral, don´t you?, and surely you´re against gay marriage saying that next step is polygamy, of course, and let alone lobster, if you don´t eat more it´s because you can´t afford.
Folks, this is why so many people have been decieved by cATHOLICS. They want to believe the traditions of men instead of following the Word of God.
When the Pope tries to prevent the use of condoms to contain the AIDS epidemic, I think he's doing it because he thinks God wants him to. When he excommunicated someone because he performed an abortion on an 11-year-old girl who had been raped, he was doing what he thought God wanted. When he complained that the West was becoming too secular and people were becomming too reasonable, it was because he thought God considered that to be a bad thing.
Catholicism is, of course, a man-made tradition, but so is every other religion on the planet.
Sometimes, the Word of God is not the easiest way to follow, but for the saint, for the believer, it is the only way!
Randy, the Bible contains conflicting instructions, making it impossible to follow. What happens when you encounter a fool? According to the Bible, you must answer and not answer him.
By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble!
If my house is not painted green then my neighbor has rabies and I'm a song from the sixties.
The Bible is clearly not completely true. (If you can prove the Earth is flat and create a circle such that pi = 3, then I'd start to take you seriously.)
There are many possible explanations for the many factual errors and contradictions in the Bible. Perhaps God spoke in metaphors. He could have been mistranslated. He could have been misinterpreted by simple people. Maybe the Bible contains "lies to children;" explanations simplified to the point of being incorrect so that a beginner can understand them. Maybe God is a practical joker. Maybe God is a liar. (According to the Bible itself, God lies to Adam and Eve and "sends a powerful delusion" to people later on.) Maybe God made a mistake when he dictated the Bible. Maybe Christianity is the wrong religion and God actually endorses the long-forgotten holy text of a tiny civilization that has been extinct for years. Maybe God's Pinnacle of Creation Project is light-years away from Earth and we arrogantly assume that we are God's Pinnacle of Creation Project and write holy books of our own. Or maybe GOD JUST DOESN'T EXIST . Since that explanation requires the fewest unexplained entities, it is the simplest one under Occam's Razor, and thus most likely correct.
@DNiThat Bible, which you so love, was written by Catholics. Think about that for a minute. The entire reason the Protestants split from the Catholic church was because the Catholics were just so damn corrupt. They let people buy their way into Heaven, they were so corrupt. Do you think that altering the bible was beyond their corruption? Changing it, to give them more power over the public? After all, the more people are alike, the easier it is that they could be controlled, right? And so when you broke off from the Catholic church, guess what?, you took that corrupted bible with you.
Based on this guy's rant against Catholics, it seems likely that his brain has been melted by Jack Chick comics. According to Chick, the Catholics corrupted the Bible but there were non-Catholics in ancient times who took a Secret Acme Truth Bible and kept it until modern times, completely skirting any relationship with the Catholics.
You could try telling him this, but if he has indeed read Jack Chick, then he's immune to facts.
@NotMeJust think about the insane laws in the OT, there are more than 600 you have to follow!
It's even worse than that! According to the New Testament, you have to and don't have to follow all of the rules in the Old Testament!
Funny thing is, even the Bible itself says that it isn't complete. Hasn't this guy ever read the last part of the Gospel of John?
"By the way, if the Bible is not the absolute, complete truth, then God is a liar and we are in serious trouble!"
Even in the very improbable case should God exist,
what makes you to assume that the bible has anything to do with God? May it be possible that this God hadn't any influence in writing the bible (as in any other so-called 'holy' texts)? That this book is nothing but a collection of ancient fairy-tales?
Of course, when Randy wants to make a point about Christians being the dominant majority in this country, Catholics suddenly become Christians in his eyes.
The bible is not the absolute complete truth, Randy is a liar and his groupies are in serious trouble.
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