As far as i am concerned Paganism is the uneducated way of life. Paganism has definate links with Satanism and that is in itself inexcusable. It branches too far into the realms of dark magic. Surely Pagans should repent of their beliefs of witch-craft and sorcery.
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As far as i am concerned, Christianity is the uneducated way of life. Christianity has definate links with Satanism and that is in itself inexcusable. It branches too far into the realms of dark magic. Surely, christians should repent of their beliefs of witch-craft and sorcery.
a bit off topic, but I have a bit of a story that this reminded me of:
the other day at work some guys from a massage salon were talking about various things with me, and one of them started discussing past experiences with having massages from other companies.
He mentioned that a woman who had given him a massage that had led to him becoming incredibly fatigued was a witch. At first I thought this was just a euphemism for a horrible person (eg, witch instead of bitch, as I was in uniform).
anyway he persisted in explaining she was a literal witch and that he has ceased talking with her (they had previously been friends) because of her supposed witch craft/sorcery.
FSTD, I live in California and although I know this type of fundy thinking is seemingly common, I never expected to come across someone who actually believed in witch craft (as it is rare enough for me to find a hand full of people who believe 100% of the bible and similar monstrosities of thought listed on this fine website).
also wouldn't that be entirely hypocritical to his/their religion of Christianity? I mean if 'witches' can perform magic, but the average church goer cannot, why would you waste time continuing at prayer when you could start learning some voodoo.
1. Paganism is only linked to Satanism in the eyes of Christians.
2. If you actually believe that there is such a thing as "dark magic", then perhaps you are the one with the uneducated way of life.
3. Pagans do not need to repent for their beliefs for the sake of the Christian worldview, anymore than you need to repent for your belief for the sake of the Muslim worldview. Shut your clap trap, and stop judging people based upon your own preconceived notions, alright?
"As far as i am concerned Paganism is the uneducated way of life. Paganism has definate links with Satanism and that is in itself inexcusable."
Your ignorance is inexcusable. What you would call "paganism" had been around for millenia before your piddly little religion or your Satan had even been conceived.
Then by your logic, Christianity is satanic, as it has adopted bunches and gobs of traditions from pretty much every pagan society it's every encountered.
Christmas, Easter and Hallowe'en, anyone? Chello?
Why should I repent? I am not responsible for burning witches, I am not responsible for the Spanish Inquisition. It has no links with Satanism. One is a blanket term for non Abrahamic religions, the other is for a religion of self worship.
Luckily the world doesn't revolve around 'as far as you're concerned'. I am Pagan of the Shamanistic variety, highly educated, don't believe in Satan, as that is an amalgam created by the 'new' religion of Christianity to demonise Paganism, and to give you guys someone to blame for your own piss poor behavior. Easier to say "The devil made me do it!" than to admit blame.
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Since I don't do witchcraft or sorcery, I have nothing to repent. Maybe you should adhere to "Judge not lest ye be judged'?
As far as i am concerned Paganism is the uneducated way of life. This from a person who likely has the home-schooled equivalent of a 6th grade education (and who can't spell a simple word like "definite").
Paganism has definate links with Satanism and that is in itself inexcusable. More evidence for home schooling: paganism (which should not be capitalized as it is not a proper noun) predates Christianity by millennia. Satan, as an entity, was invented by the Judeo-Christian club, not by pagans. And Satanism, as a religion, is a 20th century invention that has nothing at all to do with paganism.
Pagans should repent of their beliefs of witch-craft and sorcery. It seems to me that you and your Fundy friends put a great deal more belief into witchcraft and sorcery than any non-believer. If you didn't believe it was real, why do you get so worked up about it? Looks like YOU should be the one repenting of your beliefs of witchcraft and sorcery!
If you link Satanism, which is a typical Christian, Jewish or Muslim belief, with Paganism, the uneducated one is you. And the superstitious, for that matter.
As far as i am concerned Paganism is the uneducated way of life.
And the fundie trips over the first hurdle and kisses the tarmac! He'll be pulling bits of grit out of his face for weeks now!
Look up Paganism in the fucking dictionary you illiterate moron.
From the same thread:
"You're lucky my local Waterstones has all the paganism books under the 'supernatural' section.
I have complained twice and they just look at me as if I'm a nutter."
Just because your mythology isn't popular, doesn't mean you're not a nutter. By the same logic, someone who believed in harry potter would have a claim to have it moved out of the fiction section.
Well, if you want to be technical, Neopagans don't even believe in a Satan (as far as i know). Xtians on the other hand do. That would make me believe that Xtianity has definite links to Satanism. Especially since Paganism has been around A LOT longer than Satanism (which also is misconstrued in the media.)
What's so dark magic about ancient country dwellers' different beliefs in deities of nature?
Why should they repent? Just 'cause YOU think something is uneducated and satanistic, does not mean that this is of any interest whatsoever to pagans. And as this is not one registered religion, I don't think it has a capital P.
And, no, I am no practicing pagan. I just think some of it makes more sense than the musty old book you like so much.
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"As far as i am concerned Paganism is the uneducated way of life. Paganism has definate "
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Oh no more, please Mr. Wilde, I am bereft of ribs! So 'Emeritus Professor of Theology' Aquinas_Theologica here knows more than even Professors of Theology - who have studied their particular fields for decades. And who - in the theses, dissertations & papers they have written - will have known how to spell 'Defini te'.
Compared to you. And that in itself is inexcusable, I'm sure you'll agree eh, A_T? [/hyper-sarcasm]
(*Pats Aquinas_Theologica on head *)
Now you go back to your pop-up "Harry Potter" book dear, the non -'hoemskuled' adults are talking.
Pagans don't believe in Satan. Therefore, they cannot worship him. You, however, do believe in Satan...
course, it also depends which kind of Pagan he's referring to. Uppercase Pagan refers to the various Northern-European Celtic faiths that revolved around the worship of nature and a female creator-goddess (From what I understand). Lowercase pagan refers to any religion that isn't Christian.
He's speaking uppercase. Which is odd cuz I don't recall the Goddess ever ordering the slaughter of entire nations or anything of that heinous nature.
As far as i am concerned Paganism is the uneducated way of life.
Us? Just because we chose to follow older traditions than yours doesn't make us uneducated, in fact every Pagan I've talked to accepts evolution and modern science.
Paganism has definate links with Satanism and that is in itself inexcusable.
Ignoring the fact that Paganism and Satanism are two extremely different things, why do you always assume we care what the rules of your religion say?
Surely Pagans should repent of their beliefs of witchcraft and sorcery.
The world doesn't revolve around your religion, by the way. And give up being a Pagan? Never, I'm having too much fun! :)
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but:
- I've never met a pagan who worships a 'horned god'. If they did, it would be Pan, who was demonized into Satan by the jews.
- Most paths avoid what could be considered black magic
- Satanism is one of 2 things: A revival of Sumerian legend, or a reference to christianity. The latter shows christianity as having definate links with Satanism
- Pagans see their gods, yours hide behind a book
- Who they gonna repent to?
"Surely Pagans should repent of their beliefs of witch-craft and sorcery."
As a pagan, I think you should repent of your beliefs of the specialness and superiority of humans in general, and you in particular. I guess we're both doomed to disappointment.
And don't call me Shirley.
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