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Prove to me that He does not exist. Use all of your college education, mathematics and resources to prove to me that He is not there. But, no logic! Only facts! Bare, undisputable facts.

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old comment by Anonymous Tau

God is omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient

Bad things happen to good people, consistently and in massive numbers.

Many of these bad things are not caused by human activity at all, and therefore free will has no bearing on whether god would intervene

There have been millions of (christian) fatalities from various natural disasters

It takes no effort for an omnipotent being to do anything

Therefore a god is either

a) the laziest, most sadistic being in existence

b) an impotent observer, indistinguishable from an alien being and definitely not a creator

c) blind and definitely not capable of understanding the human condition

d) nonexistent

While none of these possible outcomes support your religion, Occam's razor points to option d) as the most parsiminous explanation.

There ya go. Logical proof by contradiction.

old comment by Allegory for Jesus

You can't prove anything without logic. Facts are irrelevant to drawing larger conclusions that are not themselves the facts that you know without use of logic.

Anyway, the facts:
1. Miracles that we experience are indistinguishable from rare natural occurrences.
2. Trusting the beliefs of those who claim divine revelation is indistinguishable from trusting fallible humans even when assuming that the divine revelation occurred.
3. Knowledge of God would be limited to the claims of those receiving divine revelation and due to miracles that suggest divine intervention.
4. Though lack of evidence isn't evidence of lack, no reasonable person will regard an idea that is without any positive evidence as something to seriously entertain as true as long as it remains undisproven.

Without logic, you can draw your own conclusions....

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"Prove to me that He does not exist. Use all of your college education, mathematics and resources to prove to me that He is not there. But, no logic! Only facts! Bare, undisputable facts."

Pi = exactly 3. Insects have four legs. Breeding goats near coloured poles results in the offspring having the same colours & patterns of said poles. A talking snake in the Garden of Eden. If God made the first human from dirt, then why are we, the descendants of Adam (as well as all living things, plant & animal) Carbon-based lifeforms; dirt - crushed rocks - is mainly made of Silicon.

And why it took mere humans from 1950-80 to eliminate the scourge of Smallpox in the Eradication Program, when it should have been God's job to do so? Why couldn't every single fundie just pray it away; why can't they do so with not just all diseases, but all evil in the world? 'Faith can move mountains', and all that jazz, amirite?

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(check one):

[ ] He doesn't give a fuck for we humans - including you fundies. And I thought Satan was the bad guy in all this religion malarkey?

[ ] God is deaf & blind. So much for his 'omniscience' then.

[ ] God doesn't exist.

Choose wisely. Either way, your claim of the existence of a 'God of Love' is completely fucked. Ergo, proof of your 'God's nonexistence. QED.

Actually Missingo, I am the last one-at least until someone else posts, if they do. So there!

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