I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.
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No, the point of education is to turn children into functional adults. A basic scientific education, such as the Evolutionary Theory and the Big Bang Theory contribute to this goal, as they expand the student's understanding of the world around them. Applying the bronze-age ideological patch of "god did it" does not.
"Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?"
Well, first of all, the school of thought has to make sense.
Come on guys. Would it really hurt to teach creationism? I mean the entire course would only take about 8 seconds, and that includes the single question exam at the end.
Question 1. - How?
By no stretch of the imagination is Creationism a science.
I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.
One good reason - it's not science.
- Well said! But one should not confuse science and mythology.
I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.
I cannot see much difference between the story in the bible of God's creation of the universe and the Big Bang Theory.
Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?
No, the purpose of education is to teach kids useful stuff. Not bullshit.
NO. You are an idiot. Creationism can be fine in a class of religious philosophy or ideas, but it cannot be used in a scientific environment since it isn't a scientific practice, theory, or law. Please understand the simple difference.
Science = discovered and TESTED through evidence and experimental procedures.
Religion = philosophy, belief or ideals. No testing, just FAITH and BELIEF.
Do you understand the difference now?....well I give up then
Perfect answer found in article:
1) Creationism isn't science, it's part of religion.
Evidence.
Got any?
No?
Then STFU!
Sigh. No, that's not the purpose of education, or we'd go over the flat-earth theory, suggest Lamarkian evolution as a plausible theory, and such.
Here's the main problem with teaching creationism, other the fact that, you know, it's false. If you teach one religious mythos as a possibility, you have to teach them ALL. All possibilities and all types of thought, right? That includes the Japanese mythos where a goddess gives birth to a leech which becomes life on earth, that includes the Greek Pantheon, that includes Aztecs, that includes the beliefs of some tribe you've never heard of, and that includes (OHNOES) Muslim beliefs.
"But wait! When I said you should be open to all possibilities and types of thought, I meant ONLY MINE!"
Uh. maybe because creationism is not a scientific theory?
But actually you answer yoru question yourself...what is in the bible is a "story", whereas the Big Bang is a "theory" which has something called "evidence" which indicates that it might actually be true.
I cannot see much difference between the story in the bible of God's creation of the universe and the Big Bang Theory.
14 1/2 billion years vs. 6,000 years is a pretty big difference in most peoples' books. The Big Bang only resulted in the major forces and particles; it didn't create a woman out of a man's rib.
I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.
Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?
Does this mean you'd be ok with the Eastern Orthodox faith being taught side by side with your faith in religion classes?
[I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.]
It's very simple. Creationism is not science.
[I cannot see much difference between the story in the bible of God's creation of the universe and the Big Bang Theory.]
Then you don't understand the fundamental differences between a "theory" and a "story". I'll sum it up for you in one word: evidence.
The BBT is based on tested, repeatable observations.
[Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?]
Education provides and/or enhances the ability to make rational, critically-based decisions based on the information available.
If all you need to say is "Magic Man done it!", it's hardly critical, and it's definitely not rational.
"Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought? "
I bet this same person would strongly object to paganism, wicca and other "types of thought" being taught side by side with creationism in science class.
Science class. Look at the word.
Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?
I cannot see much difference between the story in the bible of God's creation of the universe and the Big Bang Theory.
Perhaps you should start learning about them first... or at least, learn about the other one .
@dpareja: I live in Calgary, and you're correct -- Calgary is basically a colder version of Texas. We even have old men walking around in cowboy hats and boots as their everyday attire. Hell, Alberta in general is packed with rednecks -- between the global warming deniers, those who oppose the Kyoto agreement and the opposition of gay marriage, this province may as well be Texas jr.
Anyone out there want to grant me amnesty, and allow me to escape into a saner province as a political refugee?
Regarding the comment: Creationism is not science. Ergo, it doesn't belong in a science classroom. Teaching a science class about creationism is no different than teaching them that the world is flat and the sun orbits around the earth. Creationism belongs in a theology class, NOT a science class.
'Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?'
Like most fundies you try to sneak creationism/intelligent design through the back door. Religious doctrine has no place in public schools, stupid! If you want to go to a fundy school that's your right, but it's also your right to remain ignorant of reality.
I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.
The purpose of education *IS* to open the mind to possibilities and all types of thought.
The purpose of nearly all religion is to propogate itself, by showing itself to be the "one truth" and removing all need for further exploration.
Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?
Big Bang Theory: Large amounts of energy over a very very long time made stuff, with random chance thrown in for good measure.
Creation: BAM fucking magic.
I'm sorry I share this country with Linnea Whitaker.
Larty - Calgary's in Canada, so we have to put up with it, too. Americans are just louder.
"Creation Science" is a system of ad-hoc embellishments applied to false leads and outright lies.
Fairy tales, iow. Best kept in the Creative Writing class, if any benefit is to be had [as an example of how a creation myth should not be written].
I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class
That's easy. Because it's not science. It's religion.
I cannot see much difference between the story in the bible of God's creation of the universe and the Big Bang Theory
Say it with me. Slowly. Biology and astronomy are not the same thing. Now, let's say this slowly: religion and science are not the same thing. Do you get it now? Is it starting to sink in?
*facepalm*
Alberta, Canada's mirror of Texas.
It was home to the Aryan Nations, too.
Dunno if they cleaned out that nest of vipers yet ...
“I really don't see why Creationism should not be taught in science class.”
“I cannot see much difference between the story in the bible of God's creation of the universe and the Big Bang Theory.”
“Is it not the purpose of education to open the mind to possibilties and all types of thought?”
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