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I'd seriously rethink your decision if I were you. God isn't so bad after all when you're spending eternity dwelling in your misery. Hell is not a place anyone should want to go, and I think people who say they wish to go there don't know enough about it to make an informed decision. As for God telling people to worship Him or go to hell... that's not exactly what he's aiming for. I like to put it this way: you make something. A drawing, a painting, a virtual avatar. Whatever it is, you make it. Then one day, it decides that it doesn't like you so much. Forget that you're responsible for it's existence, it doesn't like your rules. It wants to forget anyone created it or give the credit to someone else. Tell me you wouldn't tear it into pieces without a second chance. God at least gives us a choice. We can give him His credit where His credit is due, or we can be torn into pieces.

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old comment by Pule Thamex

You numbskull. You speak like a deranged child with most of its brain missing. Threats won't work with adults in any case. Only gullible children might fall for your asinine example. And boy, do you sound gullible. Like the blind leading the blind.

Can't you just work at thinking things through properly and not just responding like an automaton. Or is that too much to ask? Yeah. Probably it is.

You have to practice using your intellect every day. We all got roughly the same amount of grey matter. You've just not been taught how to use it. So it's up to you. Practice. Practice. Practice. Is that such a vain sentiment for me to hope for? Experience tells me that, unfortunately, yes it is.

Oh well! I'll just have to have some laughter at your expense instead. You silly, lazy dumbo.

old comment by Zadic

I like to put it this way: you make something. A drawing, a painting, a virtual avatar. Whatever it is, you make it. Then one day, it decides that it doesn't like you so much. Forget that you're responsible for it's existence, it doesn't like your rules. It wants to forget anyone created it or give the credit to someone else. Tell me you wouldn't tear it into pieces without a second chance.

First of all, your examples are retarded. Humans are not objects and you can not begin to pretend like it is okay for a supposed god to treat us like how we treat inanimate things. I don't even see how those things could like or not like our rules as they are unthinking things, you moron. Even so, there's no reason I, personally, would ever destroy something I worked hard to create.

Second of all, you basically described a child. I can make a child, I have rules that I'd want said child to follow, but I do not own the kid. It would not be my slave, it would not be my properly. It would be a person and my job is to nuture it so it can eventually take care of itself and go out into the world to live a happy life of its own. I would not harm to my own child (which is basically what humanity is supposed to be to your god) if it did not follow my rules, I would correct it in a loving and reasonable manner and eventually I would happily step aside and let it be the guide of its own life.

Third of all, your god isn't around telling people what they can or cannot do. A book, written by Humans, that claims to be the word of this supposed god is all there is. Torturing people for all eternity for not buying that it wasn't written by simple Humans, when it clearly was, is insane. However, fear sells and religions do a wonderful job of tapping into that in order to develop and maintain a following. You, on the other hand, do not.

old comment by fundiesRtehlulz

Human: Wow! Did you just create me?

God: Yes, my child.

Human: This is wonderful! You're amazing!

God: Thank you, thank you. Well, since I just created you, I need to let you in on some of my rules. Okay, so, you have free will. That means you have the ability to do as you please.

Human: Wow, thank you!

God: You're welcome. I'm not finished, though. If you don't do everything I tell you to do, I'm going to punish you pretty badly.

Human: P-punish me?

God: 'Fraid so. You see, I have a pet peeve about insubordination. I cannot tolerate it. I hate it so much that I actually have a lake of fire for you to burn in for eternity if you don't do what I tell you.

Human: But you said I can do as I please.

God: Yes, I did. And you can do as you please. Isn't that a great gift?

Human: But if I do what I want, you'll punish me!

God: Because I'm perfect, and I created you. And I want you to want to do what I tell you to do.

Human: So why didn't you just make me without free will so I will always happily do what you tell me to do?

God: . . . HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME! THOU HAST EARNED A PLACE IN THE LAKE OF FIRE!

old comment by Eden

Well, if you take something of the computerworld (an Avatar) better use some computergame like civ as an example.
With god as really abusive computerplayer, who is genocidal against oher civilizations but also has a harsh rule over his own civilization (with population getting killed if it disagrees with god) and who nevertheless wants to be worshipped as the epitome of moral behavior ;)

old comment by Antichrist

Maybe I can put it to you this way...

I breed dogs. I do sports with my dogs (Schutzhund & Field trial). There's a saying in the dog sports that goes "Trial day ~ 90% prey, 10% pray" meaning that our dogs may perform to a T, or may decide to do the most ridiculous thing you can imagine. You send him to fetch, he goes gets the item and then leaves, or plays keep away.

Anyway, my point is, I've basically created this dog by choosing the parents and training it from puppyhood. I've fed it, sheltered it, trained it, done a hell of a lot more for that dog than your god has done for any man. Yet he runs off and does what he wants. Do I destroy the dog? Well not unless he's eaten a busload of children, in which case I would blame myself more than the dog. The dog does not give me credit. In fact I get bitten on a fairly regular basis. If the dog refused to do the sport he was bred for, I would find another sport for him. Even if I had the most vicious uncontrollable killer dog you could imagine, I would do everything I could for it and if I couldn't find a way to focus his energies, I would put him down peacefully. I would not "tear him to pieces without a second chance" nor would I torture him for all eternity.

So according to you breeders are more kind to their dogs, than the all loving god is to his creations.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"God isn't so bad after all when you're spending eternity dwelling in your misery. Hell is not a place anyone should want to go, and I think people who say they wish to go there don't know enough about it to make an informed decision."

One word: masochists. [/smartarse]

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Bad Analogy of the Year award, much?

"As for God telling people to worship Him or go to hell... that's not exactly what he's aiming for."

Yes it is. Either you agree with me, or get your fucking teeth kicked in so far, you'll be having to use Preparation H for toothpaste. Your choice. [/Sauce for the Goose]

I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.

'weirdthatway'. I nominate him for the 'Most Appropriate Screename' Award.

@The Jamo

"If I created a painting and it decided that it doesn't like me then that could quite possibly be the greatest work of art ever created. I would become an overnight success and every woman would want to sleep with me.

In answer to your question: NO, I would not tear that painting into pieces. Anyone who would is an idiot."

Centuries ago, canvas was very expensive (even for artists who were supported by rich commissioners/patrons). weirdthatway has never heard of the concept of 'Old Masters'.

The founder & head of the Butlins holiday camp empire, Sir Billy Butlin, after WWII (and his camps, taken over by the various armed forces for troop/personnel training/transit etc, then handed over) bought up artworks here & there for a song. In later years, some of them were discovered to be Old Masters, worth millions. Auctioning such, he was able to reinvest this unexpected windfall into refurbishing & expanding his existing camps, and buy/build more hotels to add to his business empire. To say nothing of donations to many good causes, nay, set up his own charitable foundation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Butlin

So I guess that fact only serves to further prove weirdthatway's fail, and annihilate his argument even more.

“I'd seriously rethink your decision if I were you.”
Why? none of the facts have changed.

“God isn't so bad after all when you're spending eternity dwelling in your misery.”
ANd god’s the guy that set that system up in the first place. He’s kind of a sociopath, at beast.

"Hell is not a place anyone should want to go, and I think people who say they wish to go there don't know enough about it to make an informed decision.”
What else is there to know? Eternal torture or being in Hell.

"As for God telling people to worship Him or go to hell... that's not exactly what he's aiming for.”
That’s the exact deal. Only through him, he’s the way, and all that. BEST a non-believer can hope for is never hearing of God and ending up on the Plain of Jars.

"I like to put it this way: you make something. A drawing, a painting, a virtual avatar. Whatever it is, you make it. Then one day, it decides that it doesn't like you so much. Forget that you're responsible for it's existence, it doesn't like your rules.”
Dude, God SAYS don’t murder. GOD murders. God directs his people to murder. Slaughter tribes, enslave the virgins. It’s not that we ’don’t like his rules,’ it’s that he’s pretty fucking hypocritical. And, what, we’re not supposed to notice that because he’s the Big Guy?
Doesn’t work that way.
I mean, unless you’re a spineless lickspittle.

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