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i want to know the scientific explination for everything.
you can give it to me one thing at a time.
but.....
i will employ in my acceptance the same rule all atheists here seem to employ us Christians.
NO internet sources
NO study information
NO book references
NO TV specials
NO word-of-mouth references
All of these are unreliable as sources for Christians, so they are also for non-Christians.
in other words, the existance of Darwin will, for the purpose of this thread, be considered a myth.
as for any other scientist outside of me and you.
............................................GO!!!!
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I challenge you to explain the origin of god.
You can't use anything you pull out of your ass as a source.
GO...............................
Considering there is no scientific explanation of everything, we couldn't give him one. Doesn't matter if Darwin existed or not, we've gone way beyond Darwin.
But I like the no references allowed bit; do they honestly believe this? They don't consider the source?
Someone hand him the works of Aristotle and say Go. Also explain this is between him and Aristotle, not him and the guy handing him the book. See Adler (an actual person) for other information.
Topic 1. What does it mean to know?
Translation : I will consent to argue with you, but I need to change the rules of logic and social interaction so that I can always win. And also there is a complicated registration procedure. Don't everyone apply at once, now.
@Corwin - That's a good idea. But would that be "study information"?
I had to learn to derive or memorize the proof of every equation in my University's Thermodynamics book, classic heat transfer book, and classic fluids book for exams...
Maybe Mr. Violence would like to see me do Navier Stokes from F=ma, with 90% my brain tied behind my back? Or maybe the 2nd law since no creationist seems to understand THAT one?
OK, but first I want you to define "scientific" without using any accepted reference source.
Whoo Whoo! All aboard the chop logic troll train!
NO internet sources
NO study information
NO book references
NO TV specials
NO word-of-mouth references
But a breeding pair of fruit flies is OK, right?
Good! Because that's all it takes to see evolution in action.
No doubt you think when we ask for conclusive evidence and bat off your religious biased websites that it's the same as you batting off scientific, peer reviewed, documented and studied websites
Compare and contrast;
Wikipedia, while it has the chance to be wrong, 99.9% of the time it is accurate
Conservapedia, while it has it's chance to be right, 99.99999999% of the time it's dillusional
Alright, it's making it unnecessarily difficult, but if you've got time we can start with a blank slate and re-create every last bit of information and knowledge again. You know, that's the cool thing about scientific theories that everyone, given enough time, can recreate the results and findings for themselves. That's what makes them valid.
So, I'd suggest for starters just find yourself a forest or something and start classifying plants. That should be easy enough. Make exact drawings, disect the plants, put them under a microscope (or go and re-invent the microscope by learning about glass and its properties) and once you've got some basic catalogue come back and we'll have a deeper look into it and see what we can deduce from your findings.
"i want to know the scientific explination for everything."
And you will only accept my personal research as a source?
All right, here's what I've got:
ryanviolence :
Class 5 douche.
By "No book references", we mean "a popular book written by a creationists that asserts things without evidence is not a definitive resource."
Of course, YOU probably take it to mean no textbooks, peer-reviewed journals that have been bound together into book form, etc..
"NO internet sources
NO study information
NO book references..."
I love that he can't tell the difference between a science journal and Mad Magazine, in terms of credibility.
ryanviolence?
ryanviolence ?
ryanviolence
Ok, kid, I want you to explain "emo" to me without using any references, especially this modern wave of hating life for no reason.
Go!
there is quite a bit that, in principle, we could verify for ourselves. However, this takes quite a bit of time, time that could be better spent discovering new stuff. So we conditionally trust sources that inform us as to how we could obtain the information first-hand and how conclusions drawn from these investigations could be overturned given certain outcomes. Additionally, common sense is use to see if the method seems sound and the conclusions reasonable, however, no amount of common sense can save a falsified conclusion. What investigations does the bible suggest I perform if I wish to discover information first-hand, what conclusions does it draw, and what could overturn said conclusions?
...NO book references ...
Says someone who bases his whole belief system (including the belief in creationism and the great flood) totally on book references (i.e. the bible)?
Evolution has much more than that ;)
So, that leaves us:
Experiments,
other people (science teachers)
shotgun,
books themselves.
Way to go, violence.
P.s. Have you ever heard about the term "proved beyond reasonable doubt"? Its real timesaver once you get its meaning.
OK, if you insist...
1. A point is that which has no part.
2. A line is breadthless length.
3. The ends of a line are points...
and so on.
ryanviolence is, as all fundies, a master idiot.
He does not deserve to be discussed with.
the existance of Darwin will, for the purpose of this thread, be considered a myth.
as for any other scientist outside of me and you
Via the science of Computing courtesy of Atheist Alan Turing, and HTML courtesy of Unitarian Universalist Sir Tim Berners-Lee, photos of Charles Darwin & Prof. Stephen Hawking buried and memorialised in Westminster Abbey courtesy of the reconciling their Christian faith with proven scientific fact Church of England...:
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...your 'argument' is a myth.
I want to know why there was a need for a Winter Para lympics in Pyeongchang if your 'God' exists:
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As there will be a Paralympics in Tokyo in 2020: and explain why they couldn't participate in that which'll precede that event: the O lympics. Because if your 'God' could heal them, there wouldn't be any need for an event which follows such. The only one stopping you: is you .
GO!
But..... you don't want to know the proper spelling of everything? I seriously hope that English is your third language; that was appalling.
(My username ought to tell you that English is (at least) my second language. I love it, I almost always read books on my Kobo in this beautiful language, and I'm much offended by ejits who can't be arsed to use it properly.)
All your NO's are hogwash, nincompoop.
I'd guess that if you went to Westminster Abbey and exhumed his tomb, you'd find the remains of Charles Robert Darwin.
When we went to London in the autumn of 2017 (as a celebration of the thirtieth anniversary of hubby's and my relationship), the Abbey was closed for ordinary visitors. I don't know why, we were just turned away.
Being a transport planner/forwarder, I'd guess that I'm leaps and bounds and miles ahead of you, in the scientist department, violent-guy.
If the concern was really learning, you could go to a library and get a few good textbooks, consult post-1950s encyclopedias... Suggesting false "debate" show, to promote a false balance between established knowledge and claim/opinion. "No internet references, but forum spamming ok." "I offered a debate and I was not satisfied, therefore they know nothing and reality can be denied and my dogmas affirmed."
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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