William Schnoebelen #fundie

William Schnoebelen #fundie chick.com

You don’t have to be sacrificing virgins or turning crosses upside down to be a satanist! All you have to do is spurn Jesus Christ and you are a satanist! If you remember nothing else from this book, remember this:

ALL pagan religions are controlled by Satan!

It doesn’t matter if you worship Pan or Krishna or Diana or Thor; the face behind the mask of your god is Satan’s. Even if you are a purported atheist, you are still worshiping Satan; for you have undoubtedly made one element your idol (the center of your life): whether it’s power, money, knowledge, freedom or some other ideal.

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old comment by pappy

I think others define "satan" (maybe maybe not Bill) or Satanist as not "the devil literally" but anything/anyone that takes your focus off spiritual growth and is materialistic in nature. Satan or satanism could be materialistic focus on life. Religous teachings and Bill's lectures offer Gems of knowledge tied between a forest of lies/ignorance? and half truths IMHO.

I think Bill is a tool. Either used as an asset to fill other's minds who realize something is wrong with the world , and divert them/herd them to a belief system that is controlled or less threatening to the current power structure looking to sustain itself wether he understands this or not.

Their is a small part of me that believes Bill is just looking to help people now, but jumped to religon (because at the time this offered him the best strength in a belief system that he needed at the time) and the dogma's of his beliefs handicap him into spouting ignorant fanatical statements which are required to maintain life thru the lens of his dogmatic beliefs which keep him safe. Should this be so i hope one day he could attribute his being saved to reaching a higher level of (for lack of a better term) "energy" and the powerful protecting energy's that this intention of selflessness and love fills people with (the same intentions and examples that jesus may have lived and promoted).

And wether he needed to name this "savior" jesus to believe it or because that is how religions perverted jesus's name knowing those desperate for solutions/ answers to the hell that bad choies in their life found them in, would lash out to a life line (if they were not indoctrinated since birth) , (and relgions would be the majority to choose from in one's decison set/"lifelines") , and that by associating their institutions with jesus and falsely IMO leading people to believe these relgions share the selfless teachings of this man (and other's like him) as well as seperating a person from their own creating abilites (and giving a third source the credit) knowing people's desperation and fear of rethinking their plights (which may need to be revisited to go to yet another belief system of strength that is less dogmatic) (or facing the wrath's of hell) , would keep them satisfied in this new beleif system (as well as dependent on a giving an outside source credit for their prayers/creation abilites" and give them the will to rationalize certain information away should they be confused when internally confronted with inherent questions/doubts about the "goodness" of their religion.

old comment by pappy

(to late to edit/add to last post)

I also think that is possible that certain things beyond my current understanding will be happening in the near future (indirectly related to astonomic changes) that effect the way energy effects human beings thought process's and that this may be in some way a threat to the power structure dominating earth. Wether there is a conspiracy to encourage keeping us in a life of spiritual infancy where our decisons / emotions lead us to be easier controlled i don't know and wether this conspiracy has interdimensional beings or soley humans who perfected thier dark sides and are looking to sustain their heirarchy is also beyond me, but i think the PTB may be making a move to facilitate a new societal model globally which will help them sustain this system of control, wether this is due to reasons i speculated on in the first sentence ( or just a "natural need" time line of consolidating power to maintain a heirarchy of influence/control.

lastly i think it may be wise to consider that figuring out who and what and how organizations may be responsible for any conspiracy could lead to a deflection of goals/ priority's in life and bait for the ego to figure out, instead of possibly living life in a fun responsible giving well intentioned/ loving path. Perhaps like the person in the midst of a nervous breakdown/ crisis in their lives searching for a life line could in some perspectives be compared w( those of us who realize something is wrong and the world and looking for a path of truth) we both reach out for the very things most visible to us (solutions/answers promoted to compromise our decision set). for the desperate person religion fills the void but also leaves one w/ dogmatic constraints and for the truth seaker the ego trap to figure out who/what/how/why is resposnible and guiding a conspiracy may be (the most promoted choice in one's decision set) and why these conspiracy website's are not hacked/censored and allowed to be all over the net. The focus to figure out this "garbage" could consume people, especially those in the segment that know something is wrong and could otherwise be open to spiritual service to others spiritual growth. just brain-storming.

old comment by Lothar of the Hill People

I found this page after doing a search for this William guy. I have an interest in D&D (Dungeons & Dragons), and this guy basically says if you play that game, you are a witch/satanist, mainly because some characters use magic, and all characters kill. Some people play the role of evil. It's just a game. He even mentions statistics of people who play D&D are more prone to committing suicide, or getting into REAL magic. I wanted to contact the man himself, but I guess he keeps his email private in fear of receiving tons of horse porn.

Anyway, my argument is how is role playing in D&D any different than an actor playing a role in a movie? Even in pro-christian movies there has to be someone to play the villain, a demon, a witch, or even the devil himself.

I doubt he will see this comment, but it he’s gonna make such claims, he should at least be open to debate.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"All you have to do is spurn Jesus Christ..."

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"...and you are a satanist!"

I've never performed Bukkake with this 'Jesus' bloke you mention, so I guess I'm okay then.

[/smartarse]

"ALL pagan religions are controlled by Satan!"

To my knowledge, otaku like me aren't worshipping Urd, Belldandy & Skuld (the Three Norns; Goddesses of the Past, Present & Future respectively), or Peorth (the Goddess of Eternity). But I must admit that Hild (the 'Daimakaicho', or Leader of Hell) is H.O.T.:

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One word: Paizuri. X3

...oh, and do the cute "Touhou"-esque deities in the currently airing anime series "Nekogami" count? :3

"It doesn’t matter if you worship Pan or Krishna or Diana or Thor; the face behind the mask of your god is Satan’s."

Definition of 'Atheist'. Oxford English Dictionary. Do you have it?

"Even if you are a purported atheist, you are still worshiping Satan; for you have undoubtedly made one element your idol (the center of your life): whether it’s power, money, knowledge, freedom or some other ideal."

Whilst comedian Johnny Vegas is a damn good stand-up act (and equally funny in comedy quiz games such as "Shooting Stars" & "QI"); also a deucedly good actor in his own right, one of his comedy-drama series isn't exactly worthy of being the basis of a religion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_%28TV_series%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Vegas

[/smartarse II]

BTW, I've had my Prick Tract cherry popped! Right up to this morning, I hadn't seen hide nor hair of these (in)famous tracts in all my born days anywhere here in the UK (except scans/parodies/meme shoops; 'Sandwich Man'/etc on the internet). Then when I got up, I discovered a couple had been put through my letterbox. Just as bad in the 'flesh' as those on my monitor; crap art, to say nothing of the ram-down-your-throat message it purports to be delivering.

I'd heard rumours recently, of complaints to the police about the ranting street preachers in my locale, and how they'd been told to cease their 'Turn or Burn' message; effectively threatening behaviour in public, which contravenes Section 5 of the Public Order Act. So, denied their right to rely on psychological blackmail in this way (PROTIP: Romans 13:1-5, fundies! >:D ), I wonder if they're now resorting to using crappy comics to put the same message across, in an anonymous way - to evade the long arm of the law?

@Lothar of the Hill People

"I have an interest in D&D (Dungeons & Dragons), and this guy basically says if you play that game, you are a witch/satanist, mainly because some characters use magic, and all characters kill. Some people play the role of evil. It's just a game. He even mentions statistics of people who play D&D are more prone to committing suicide, or getting into REAL magic."

I'd heard that at an RPG convention once, they even used Prick Tracts as on-site currency.

"I wanted to contact the man himself, but I guess he keeps his email private in fear of receiving tons of horse porn"

I have a pic he'd love to 'see'. What I like to think is how Shergar ended up (apart from being in cans of Pedigree Chum/tubes of UHU/Copydex/Loctite), courtesy of the IRA: what I refer to as 'Batchelors Cock-a-Soup'. >:D

William Schnoebelen #fundie chick.com

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