OECs agree with science that the earth is old because of how far the stars are away from our planet, and how long it takes for light to travel that far. I can see were someone can be confused on this. But actually it very simple. When God created, he created the light before he created the object that produced the light.
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When God created, he created the light before he created the object that produced the light.
Kinda like how you type up your shit before you have a brain to think about it with.
When God created, he created the light before he created the object that produced the light.
You seriously don't see a problem in thinking like this?
How do you know god created the object. It seems like a waste of time to creat an object if you only have to create the light. I mean, the universe is only 6000 years old, and the rapture will happen any day now, so it's much easier to creat 6000 years worth of photons than to make billions of giant galaxies billions of light years away producing light that nobody will ever see.
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I don't think that's the way a fundie's brain 'works'. In Genesis God creates light on day one, the sun moon and stars on day four. If they question that they might question the next part about the magic trees, and then they might question the concept of original sin, and that might lead to them questioning the need for Jesus to die to save us from it.
So it's easier just to not think at all and just claim 'it's very simple, God did it, the Bible says so, case closed'.
"When God created, he created the light before he created the object that produced the light."
Yeah. God said "Let there be light", then he went, "Let there be something to MAKE the light to throw off all those scientists!"
It reminds me oif the medieval epicirlces, that were used to explain the inconsistencies of the geocentric model with movements of the planets (i.e. the planets sometimes make a small circle backwards of their normal movement direction; of course, later, with the heliocentric model people discovered that the whole dynamics is much moe elegant :D)
I assume you can explain everything with the biblical young earth story. You just have make a few twists and turns using pseudologic :D
If he created light, and there was no light source when he created it. And if he created it, that would make him a light source, then did/does he not exist?
It's uncanny how creationists will come up with anything, regardless of how ridiculous, to "prove" their retarded-ass beliefs. There is no contradicting evidence that they can't twist in their favor. It reminds when I was a little kid and I'd be having a pretend shootout with my friend and when I'd "shoot" him and I'd yell "I got you!" He'd just go:
"nuh-uh! I'm wearing a bulletproof vest",
"but I shot you in the face"
"...I'm wearing a bulletproof mask too!"
It's just like trying to debate a creationist.
How do these brain damaged people even manage to learn how to read, write, and use the internet, when they don't even have enough brain cells functioning to think with?
And god has always, always been here - so, of course, he created himself even before he created himself, as only he can do. Well, him and the other two guys - who are also him.
That's like me lighting up the room before flicking the switch. It never happened. Of course, some people have the sort of personality that "lights up a room" the moment they enter it, but they generally are happy, outgoing people who don't go around condemning everyone.
It's not enough for God to create the light first and then the stars. He would have to create a light image for something that never happened. For example, SN1987a exploded 169,000 years ago. If God created the light from that explosion only 6,000 years ago, then the explosion never happened - He just made a false image of it. Once you allow that God gives us false information, then everything, including the Bible, becomes unreliable. In fact, the whole world could have been created last Thursday, with false memories of it planted in our brains. That's why the theory has always been rejected by religious thinkers.
"But actually it very simple. When God created, he created the light before he created the object that produced the light."
And you don't see a problem with that? Did you also graduate from school before you were born?
Yeah... I can just see God now, giggling maniacally as he creates random starlight in the universe, saying to himself, "This'll really fuck with their heads! Let's see 'em try to believe that seven-day crap now!"
Ah, yes, what I tend to refer to as the "God is a lying bastard" hypothesis.
Hey, somebody move a bunch of photons way the fuck out here, I need those scientists to be deceived!
So what we're seeing right now is fake light, then?
So, God made the light before the actual stars, which means that the events the light allows us to see never actually happened, which means that God is making things up just to fuck with our heads.
Great.
"When God created, he created the light before he created the object that produced the light."
...What? Even with Fundie Logic(TM) that makes no sense.
I think I just realized where fundies come from. One says something monumentally stupid, causing another's brain to shut down. That one, formerly a reasonable person, loses their ability to use logic and comes up with idiotic ideas like this to support their own viewpoints, no matter how flimsy the argument is. This in turn creates a whole new generation of fundies...
Screw it. I'm just going to call this person a moron.
And why the fuck would he do that? Just to confuse us?
Also, if he made the entire Universe solely for our benefit, I think he made it a little bigger than was required....
But actually it very simple.
Uh huh, it take one to know one - you very simple, too.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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