Given all the gaps in fossil record and gaping holes in the dying theory of evolution, itself, I think it's pretty clear that scientists should start taking Creation Science a little more seriously.
If the government gave Creation Scientists as much money as they were giving to evolution scientists, the issue would be over and done with. Creation Scientists already have the answers, all they need is the funding to verify the Bible by doing the science. Further, I would add that evolution, if taught at all, should be taught as a religion.
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Yeah... if something has holes, let's go all the way and believe something that is nothing but a hole.
Guess that's why you call it Holey.
Eru forgive me, what a horrible pun.
Aaaah. The money. Only a neocon government could entertain the thought of equating religion with science...with politics...with public funding.
Verify the bible by doing the science?
Scientists are ready and willing to do the science. They are waiting (forever) for a workable premise. Not money.
God's science is revealed through the workings of the ages. Fossil record, like. Very educational. No better physical evidence, when it can be found. Gaps will always exist in the fossil record, but hey, rifts and incongruities appear constantly in the bible.
You seem to be all right with that mess, follower.
"Creation Scientists already have the answers, all they need is the funding to verify the Bible by doing the science."
SCIENCE DOESN'T... oh, wtf. Nevermind.
One of the things that amazes me, after so many posts, is how people, so ignorant on science, can claim that there is no evidence for the theory of evolution or that it has been proved that it's false. I mean, even the orthodox and the Catholic church, as well as some parts of Islam, who were very hostile in the past to it, have accepted it partially. If there were so much evidence, how have they given up so easily?. I think that some pastor has misunderstood some scientific facts that he's heard on the programs broadcast in Discovery Channel and the such and they tell it to the congregation. It's sad to see that they're so isolated from the real world.
Yeah right, idiots like you believe bozos like Ray Comfort and Kent Hovind, so you are easy prey, why waste money? The rest of us have actually READ SCIENCE BOOKS and don't want our tax money spent to give us amusement at how stupid some people are. You are already giving us that for free.
If the government gave Creation Scientists as much money as they were giving to evolution scientists, the issue would be over and done with.
"Evolution scientists" are attempting to overturn evolution all the time. They'd probably win a Nobel Prize for it. For example, an experiment by "evolution scientist" B. G. Hall suggested that the environment may "direct" mutations, a la Lamarck. This would obviously be counter to Darwin's theory. But they found that stress caused an increase in all mutations, not just beneficial ones. So the hypothesis went nowhere.
Disproving evolution wouldn't prove the Bible. The Bible contradicts physics, astronomy and geology, too. For example, you'd have to mess around with the speed of light to make stars appear less than 6,000 light years away.
Lessee...gaps in the fossil record, evolution is dying...accusations of overt favoritism for evolution...evolution is a religion
Its all standard creationist fare. What makes some of you think its a poe?
Sorry but the TOE is fit and well. Just been out windsurfing and did a 5 mile run.
Creation scientists get millions of dollars from donations every year, they dont need government funding. They probably dont want the oversight that federal grants require either.
Evolution has no supernatural component so clarly is not a religion.
If the government gave Creation Scientists as much money as they were giving to evolution scientists, the issue would be over and done with.
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You fundies get money donated from the gullible, pay no taxes on it, and still want more subsidising from he taxpayers tp prop up your ridiculous assertions? And the issue would never be over and done with. You will never, ever shut your damn yaps about your shit.
For every new fossil that is found, there are two more gaps in the records, stupid. If we only had two fossils, there would be only one gap. The ToE is doing perfectly fine, stronger and more supported than ever before.
Creation "Science" had its chance to show how serious it is, in the Kitzmiller vs Dover trial. It failed dismally.
In order to receive research money you have to first show that you know how to do research, and that you are conducting some scientific research already. During the almost 2000 years that the Bible has existed, there ought to be at least one shred of evidence, that it can be used as base for science. The ToE has only existed for 150 years and it has mountains upon mountains of evidence in its favour.
Evolution, being a crucial part of biology, should be taught in Biology classes.
There are plenty of very wealthy creationists. Why don't some of them bankroll some professional young-earth creationist researchers?
Don't use the funds to build amusement parks and museums. Don't use the funds to hire lawyers to try to do an end-run around school boards. Use the money to build actual laboratories and staff them with trained research personnel, buy equipment and conduct actual biological and geological research using the assumptions YECs work under. Make sure you keep consistent methods of your methodologies so that other people can do the same research if they wish. And then, if you actually discover something relevant that can be confirmed by others using the same methodology, THEN you can start applying for research grant money.
But none of this is going to happen, and we all know it. It's not going to happen, because it's much, much easier to simply start citing the Loch Ness monster or back-country folktales of African monsters as evidence that sauropod dinosaurs still exist, or to try to link the teaching of evolution to every bad thing that's ever happened anywhere ever. It's much cheaper, quicker and easier to undermine actual established science than it is to actually prove your own, you see.
And we also know how it would turn out anyway. See, many of the most basic assumptions that prove the world and the universe in which it resides are very, very ancient were discovered by people who once believed emphatically in a young earth and couldn't square their results with it.
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