[Buddhists are good people. good people who have no anger or hatred. Good people go to heaven in my book. why be punished for loving and treating others well?]
Well, your book is not the one in heaven. God's book is! And God's book says that all your righteousness is as filthy rags.
I believe a Buddhist can be a nice person, but unfortunately being a nice person doesn't get you to heaven. So, yes, I believe there could be a good Buddhist. There are many good muslims. There are many good Lutherans and Catholics, but if are salvation is based on our goodness we have no chance of heaven.
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but if are salvation is based on our goodness we have no chance of heaven.
This is one of the things that infuriates me about Christianity (of the protestant flavor), you're not saved or punished for what you do, but what you think. At the very least Catholicism provided some incentive. With salvation being granted by faith alone, despite the loud bleating that god will make you a more moral person, there is absolutely no reason to do anything for anyone other than yourself or your family.
The "faith alone" theory was put forth by Paul, not Jesus. There are plenty of passages contradicting the concept in the Gospels, but fundie Baptists ignore them because that would mean actually doing something good instead of accepting Jesus in their hearts and then doing anything they please.
Congralutions, Missons2005, you just condemned most of Minnesota to Hell. The Land of 10,000 Lakes hereby declares that you can fuck off !
In that case, what´s the aim of the Bible anyway?. I think that a God that created a humankind to destroy 80% of them on purpose, is not sensible. And Jesus is clear in the value of good works. That´s why you don´t attrac people anymore.
So if salvation isn't based on goodness, like your Bible (which somehow died and got into heaven?) says, then what IS it based on? Hm?
Buddhists don't believe in heaven, salvation, and all that other shit anyway. Therefore, as a practicing Buddhist, I say, "So what?"
I read this as "You can be as evil and sin as much as you like, but as long as you believe what WE believe you'll go to heaven."
There are many good muslims. There are many good Lutherans and Catholics, but if are salvation is based on our goodness we have no chance of heaven."
Tzelemel noticed the actual point. Heaven is not a reward for the GOOD; it is a reward for the FAITHFUL, regardless of their behavior.That's precisely what it's for!
~David D.G.
I love the hidden message behind: "if are [sic] salvation is based on our goodness we have no chance of heaven. [sic]"
Yes but see now you don't get in to heaven on goodness alone and you see, well, if goodness is our chance of heaven, you notice, well, we don't stand a chance. caleonosis retaerdio are crawling from UrAnus!
"...if are [sic] salvation is based on our goodness we have no chance of heaven." That's right, fool, since you're just a prejudiced bible-zombie, you'd have no chance.
/I believe a Buddhist can be a nice person, but unfortunately being a nice person doesn't get you to heaven./
I don't know what church you belong to, but that's not what I believe or what I was taught. I've always thought that people go to heaven BECAUSE they're good. I've always thought that it would make sense for a good Muslim/Buddhist/Jew to go to heaven and a bad Christian to not go. Maybe because I'm not a Calvinist. Silly me, what did I know?
And yet you still don't see the glaring problem with your dogma...?
Of course you don't. Doing so would mean you'd have to give up your hateful, judgmental behavior, and that you wouldn't feel special anymore, knowing you're one of five people going to heaven.
so if you're a terrible person but who believes in Christ, you get into heaven before a good person who doesn't?
someone care to explain the logic here?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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