(When asked how plants could have existed before the Sun was 'created' in Gen. 1)
Do you know what hydroponics is?
In short it is growing plants with artifical light/Non sun light. Is it your belief that only man can create light?Big Grin
Did you know that certain plants and certain coral grow better under certain blends of artifical light than they do in the sun? How is that possiable if they all 'evolved' with the sun as their only source of light?
On the first Day God created 'Light.' Possiably meaning the light spectrum in general or maybe just the three visiable wave lengths we can see. Then later on the sun became the primary source of our visiable light. It doesn't mean God Himself was not the orginal source.
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Logic fail. If there wasn't a sun, how could there have been any light at all? And no, "God created the light" and "the stars provided the light" are not valid explanation since, former, there cannot be any light without a light source and, latter, the light stars other than our sun provide is insufficient.
It doesn't mean God Himself was not the original source.
That isn't even what hydroponics are! Get a dictionary.
Hydroponics: The process of growing plants in sand, gravel, or liquid, with added nutrients but without soil.
Trouble is, that days are measured by the rotation of the earth as it travels round the sun. According to Genesis 1, the sun was not created until the fourth day. In order for this account to be literally true, there needs to be a lot of retro-projection here.
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I thought everyone who came through the Sixties knows hydroponics is a method of growing plants using mineral nutrient solutions in water without soil (see, "hydro" means water). So you're saying God had a grow op going? Gives a whole new meaning to Garden of Eden, doesn't it? So when was the first doob rolled?
The reason this all makes no sense to those of us employing logic and reason is that it was made up by a bronze age sheep herder who had trouble keeping track of which came first, the plant or the light.
In other words, "By magic, at the direction of my invisible friend--you know, the one with all the neat superpowers."
The Bible doesn't just say God created light on the first day. It says that God then divided the light from the darkness and called the light "day". That's a lot more than just creating photons. Furthermore, the definition of a day is the period between successive appearances of the sun. The word "day" has no meaning except in reference to the sun. The ancient Hebrews considered a "day" to be the period between successive sunsets. This is implicit in Gen 1:5 when it says there was an evening and a morning (not the other way around as we would say nowadays).
No one is suggesting that the discrepancy between the light and the sun shows that God wasn't the original source of the light. They're suggesting that the passage makes no sense. It therefore was invented by humans; God would have known better.
"It doesn't mean God Himself was not the orginal source."
Yes, because he always thought that the Sun shone out of his arse.
Whenever people mention hydroponics I get a flashback to *that level* of Dead Space 1...
*Readies his plasma cutter*
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Anyways, back to the topic at hand! I really have trouble understanding this fixation that fundies of a certain type have for Freud. I mean, why not give some love to old Carl Jung, for example? Or better yet, join the rest of us in the realms of modern psychoanalysis, where we don't treat bored housewives with either orgasms or hysterectomies and ovarectomies.
Did you know they discovered "certain plants and certain coral grow better under certain blends of artifical light" by testing said with various wavelengths and intensities?
And never saw the God factor at all?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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