Indeed, highly religious minority students actually outperformed the aggregate of white students in certain academic areas, such as their desire to take college placement courses and their likelihood in being left behind a grade in school.
Viewed in this light, we can see that atheism is simply a form of racism.
This is actually not surprising. Atheists tend to be eugenicists, which is to say, they tend to be racists. Christians do not wish to “breed a race of thoroughbreds”, as Margaret Sanger urged. American Christians may have enslaved blacks, but English Christians, and subsequently American Christians, were also at the forefront of the abolition movement. Catholic Christianity invented the orphanage, the university and largely invented the hospital. Because Christians who live Christian Faith care for the well-being of every man, Christians improve every man. Contrast this to the atheists, who simply write off large segments of humanity as insufficiently well-endowed by genes or circumstance, unworthy of the social resources necessary to maintain them.
For a logically consistent atheist, altruism enables mediocrity. There are people whose best will never even approach adequacy; investing resources into these people is a dead loss from an atheistic economic perspective.
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The "highly religious" might be a clue there to why they stayed behind a grade. Sometimes they spend a lot of time learning to quote (not understand, just memorise) the bible, and very little time learning much else.
Then for whatever (usually financial) reason the parents are forced to send their kid off to a public school, where the child proves to lack much social development, and usually plenty of knowledge too.
If you don't WANT to learn, or don't want your children to learn a subject because "its against your beliefs", don't be surprised if those in charge of assessing whether you're capable of understanding things that build on what you're missing from earlier years decide you can't move up yet.
Note: I've met both ends of the spectrum when it comes to homeschooling. One particularly religious family had taught their kids properly, and two of them actually had skipped a grade to be in my class. While devout, they weren't fundie at all, and the kids were far ahead in reading and comprehension.
The other end (of the "good/true christian" kind also)... well, repeating grade 6 (where the kid had been admitted through some rather lax "well at that age its probably best" style assessment) then being sent to 5 because you could barely even read pretty much speaks for itself. Parents blamed it on the teachers, too.
"atheism is simply a form of racism."
Lie #1
"Atheists tend to be eugenicists."
Lie #2
"American Christians may have enslaved blacks"
Sad but true.
"English Christians and subsequently American Christians were also at the forefront of the abolition movement."
Also true.
"Catholic Christianity.."
Wait! According to Fundies Catholics aren't real Christians.
"...invented the orphanage, the university and largely invented the hospital."
Lies #3, 4 & 5.
"Because Christians who live Christian Faith care for the well-being of every man, Christians improve every man."
Lie #6. Westboro Baptist anyone?
"Contrast this to the atheists who simply write off large segments of humanity."
Lie #7.
"For a logically consistent atheist, altruism enables mediocrity."
Lie #8.
Let's see 8 lies, 2 bits of truth that were irrelevent to the argument and contradicting other fundies, a textbook fundie post.
"Indeed, highly religious minority students actually outperformed the aggregate of white students in certain academic areas, such as their desire to take college placement courses and their likelihood in being left behind a grade in school.
Viewed in this light, we can see that atheism is simply a form of racism."
"Viewed in this light"? Explain how paragraph one is even remotely related to paragraph two. Here's a starter clue for you: it isn't.
First, how is choosing not to believe in God any kind of racism? That's like saying I'm a member of the British National Party because I'm not French.
Secondly, if atheists tend to be eugenicists, how come the most prominent eugenicists haven't been atheists?
Thirdly, I believe that an anthropomorphic God does not exist. I also believe that all human life is valuable. What is logically inconsistent about that?
Christians do not wish to “breed a race of thoroughbreds”, as Margaret Sanger urged. Not anymore, anyway.
Carnegie, an atheist, was largely responsible for the rise of public libraries across the U.S..
What could be more racist than the Bible story of relieving one of God's curses by impaling an inter-racial couple?
Atheists do not "write off large segments of humanity as insufficiently well-endowed by genes or circumstance, unworthy of the social resources necessary to maintain them." That's a bald-faced lie and I suspect you know it's a lie. Shame on you.
Has this guy ever heard that correlatioon does not imply causation?
Even if it's true that "highly religious minority students actually outperformed the aggregate of white students" (he may have just pulled this out of his ass, and indeed, wyvern pointed out that the "academic areas" pointed out are nothing but), it makes no sense that religion is the cause of this. If I had to guess, both religion and academic effort are the result of some third factor, most likely parental involvement .
The part about "religious minority students outperforming the aggregate of white students" is taken from a book supposedly based on the NELS. I can't for the life of me find any statement about "religious minority students" or religious anything in that study. PS Racist Atheists? You have to be "fundamentalist Christian" to join the KKK. That about sums up the value of your insights right there, either cynical liar or unknowing toady.
And surprisingly, most of the civil rights movement were Catholics, agnostics, atheists and moderate Christians, you know, what at the time was called "communists". Moreover, can you explain to me why the current Christian president is so fond of treating people as "illegal aliens"?
It appears that when one is a fundy, one can make up "facts" off the top of one's head and pass them off as "truth" because, after all, fundies are speaking for God.
But this one really DOES boggle the mind.
investing resources into these people is a dead loss from an atheistic economic perspective
An atheistic ethical perspective, however, will probably help those people anyway, 'cause it's just the right thing to do. Besides, suffering is a total downer and I don't want to watch that, especially when I can make it stop.
Um...early Social Darwinist/Eugenist had a very uneasy alliance with the public health people on the basis that without it, even the best and the brightest would die young without the opportunity to pass on their genes.
So if we impute that into the asserted assumptions you make, either the Catholics building those hospitals etc. could have been eugenist in disguise or your so-called Atheist were actually public health people.
Or both. Or more likely, neither.
Come on now, how about learning the facts first and then using some logic?
What could be more racist than the Bible story of relieving one of God's curses by impaling an inter-racial couple?
Whoa, I've not heard of that one before, Papabear, although I don't find it too hard to believe. Reference, please?
"...but English Christians, and subsequently American Christians, were also at the forefront of the abolition movement."
You fail at history. Sure, Americans were subsequent... by at least fifty years. The English woke up and started campaigning to end slavery in the early 1800s. In 1772 it was ruled illegal by the British, and in 1807, the slave trade was abolished in the empire. They bent over backwards to police their rulings at great expense. The U.S., on the other hand, took until the 1860s to abolish slavery, after such obscure countries as Colombia and Chile.
Christianity was used as a very substantial justification for slavery - basically, God made you inferior and so I get to own you. It was used to brainwash slaves into accepting their fates. Don't ignore your faith's own history so readily.
Besides, genetics only shows everyone that we are all much closer than we could ever imagine. Any given person is 99.9% genetically the same as everyone else on earth. Athiests are just as altrusitic as Christians, because altruism is a human quality based on empathy, not a characteristic under religious monopoly. Eugenics is nonsense, and dangerous in more ways than one.
Indeed, highly religious minority students actually outperformed the aggregate of white students in certain academic areas, such as their desire to take college placement courses and their likelihood in being left behind a grade in school.
Wait, wait, wait. Being more likely left behind a grade in school is a sign of outperforming others? What is this, competitive failure?
Indeed, highly religious minority students actually outperformed the aggregate of white students in certain academic areas, such as their desire to take college placement courses and their likelihood in being left behind a grade in school.
Viewed in this light, we can see that atheism is simply a form of racism.
Sorry. Try again next life.
LM:
My best friend is Japanese-American, and she mostly gets Cs and Ds.
Of course, my Korean-American friend gets all As, so... that could go either way.
Christians do not wish to “breed a race of thoroughbreds”,
Thats what Hitler and the christian nazis thought.
Catholic Christianity invented the orphanage the university and largely invented the hospital.
Source please.
Because Christians who live Christian Faith care for the well-being of every man, Christians improve every man.
Wrong. Try reading the crucible sometime.
Contrast this to the atheists, who simply write off large segments of humanity as insufficiently well-endowed by genes or circumstance, unworthy of the social resources necessary to maintain them.
How many times have you flown to Africa to help provide food and medicine for people?
Intelligence and capacity is something that either you have or not. If you´re religious and well educated, you pass. If you´re not religious and bad educated, you repeat. That´s the question. Correlation doesn´t imply causation, that´s soemthing you and your religious folks should bear in mind.
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