There is a relentless war being waged against American men that literally spans the entire extent of their lives. From the womb, in which a woman's "right" to abort a male baby for being male is defended but a similar right to abort a female baby for being female is vehemently opposed, to the grave, wherein the disparate impact of old age is ignored despite women living 5.2 years longer than men on the average, men are systematically, structurally and unstintingly under assault.
Most men understand this on some level, but like the nice dependable man who can't figure out why attractive women repeatedly reject him in favor of unemployed losers with criminal records, they are incapable of doing anything about it because they simply can't believe that women truly do not think or behave like men. Because they want to believe that women are "the civilizing force," their "better halves" or "the fair sex," they are constitutionally incapable of seeing what is, from a rational male perspective, the seething cauldron of amoral solipsism behind the collective pretty face.
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"From the womb, in which a woman's "right" to abort a male baby for being male is defended but a similar right to abort a female baby for being female is vehemently opposed"
WTF!? I've never heard of this, you just pulled it out of your ass.
Also, it is probably nigh-on impossible to find a male who denies the idea that women are the "fairer sex".
I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of this sex-selected abortion shit. As far as I know, it just doesn't happen.
Attractive women like unemployed losers? Where is this happening and how long would it likely take me to get there?
I'm going to call citation motherfucking needed on everything but the longevity stat.
1. Many, if not most, feminists consider the longevity gap a real problem.
2. It is also a historical anomaly as women dying in childbirth used to be fairly routine. Un-regulated reproduction also wore down women's bodies faster.
Edited to ad: Women have the same problems in relationships. I was dumped by a guy for being "too elite" and hanging around with "important people."
I agree that there are injustices that men suffer by society, but I hardly think it is a war. Society is still recovering from being conservative and thinking that men are less important them women and children and thus we see that mens health issues like prostate cancer are not nearly on the same footing as breast cancer. Conservative society forces men to believe they are only sapposed to have relations with a women...get married have children be the man and make money blah blah blah. So no wonder so many striaght men are so afraid of coming out. Conservative society which is patriarcal harms everyone no matter the sex.
And that abortion thing you threw in...wtf?
Try telling this rant to a Indian woman, from the outskirts of Mumbai, say, who has just had her Female child aborted, often against her will, for the "crime" of being female...
If she refuses, there's a high chance of her own family turning on her, executing her for the crime of defying their will in a "Honour Killing"...
I would imagine that after hearing said whine, she might want to castrate Vox Day with a blunt & dirty knife...
Somehow I think Vox's definitions are like this:
"nice dependable man" - Vox.
"unemployed losers with criminal records" - everyone else.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he's in a good financial situation. If he wasn't, the argument would become that women are materialistic bitches that only care about money and won't even give his poor ass a chance.
The truth is that women aren't rejecting Vox because of his financial situation. They're rejecting him because he's Vox.
> men are systematically, structurally and unstintingly under assault.
"Women, please don't hit us with that rolled-up newspaper, or... or... or... I'll give the legislators a piece of my mind."
> the nice dependable man who can't figure out why attractive women repeatedly reject him
Oooooooooh, I see what sparked this rant. *furious nodding*
@solomongrundy "Wow, this quote shows a level of disconnection from reality extreme even for Wing Nut Daily...it's more like it's from the 'Alternate Bizarro World' Daily Mail readers live in."
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wing+nut+daily&l=1
"amoral solipsism"
I know what those two words mean, but he clearly doesn't.
Amoral is not the word he's looking for, I think he means IMmoral as Amoral means it has nothing to do with morality at all.
And solipsism is the belief that the universe is simply a figment of your imagination and therefore you are its centre. But I think he was fishing for "self-centred" there.
@Murdin
Re: the Daily Liar, here's Mail-a-matic
http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/
the first five I got were:
Have the unemployed molested your daughters?
Are teachers giving your pension swine flu?
Could dumbing-down ruin homeowners?
Could binge drinking infect your mortgage with AIDS?
Is health and safety stealing the identity of the Queen?
Every one could pass as a genuine Daily Heil headline
In China, India and other places, female babies are more likely to be aborted, because male babies are "more valuable". In China, thanks to their one-child law, baby girls have been thrown down wells and smothered to make room for a male baby. In parts of Asia and Africa little girls as young as six are often sold into marriage or prostitution.
In the West, women abort for a variety of reasons, gender is rarely one of them.
but like the nice dependable man who can't figure out why attractive women repeatedly reject him in favor of unemployed losers with criminal records
It's really just the opposite that's true. True, young women often find the "bad boy" a turn on (I know I did) while dating, but when it came to choosing a life partner, responsible and dependable are among the most important factors for most. If you're getting rejected it's because you're a douche, not because you haven't stolen a car or two.
Stupidity, thy name is Vox Day.
If you compare the amount of fetuses aborted for being male, with the ones aborted for being female, I bet you come up with something like one male for every 200 females. In China you can only have one child, and a staggering amount of those single children are male, to the point where many of these boys can't find a woman to marry.
Most male fetuses aborted are probably aborted because they carry a lethal or debilitating disease that's only present in males.
A new study here in Sweden says that women have almost twice as hard to get an injury classified as a work-related injury, than men.
Women are often misdiagnosed when they get heart attacks, as the attacks don't present themselves the same way in women as in men. We all know that pain radiating from the heart to the left arm might mean heart attack, right? But, that's in males. Women might have indigestion or shortness of breath instead, and often die from the heart attack before it's diagnosed.
Why should women think and behave like men? We're women, we think and behave like women. Our brain halves are better connected than yours. Someone said (jestingly of course) that women have a four line highway between their halves, and men have two guys on mountaintops sending smoke signals to each other.
And, we are not all attractive or pretty. Maybe, if you "nice dependable men" looked beyond the facade you might realize that women are people too, that the not so pretty might be more interesting than the bimbos you lust after.
Ahh, typical Nice Guy syndrome. How sad.
(Nice Guy: man who acts nice, friendly, etc. towards women, not because he actually genuinely likes them as people, but solely because he wants sex/a relationship.)
It is illegal in many countries to abort because of gender, unless that embryo/fetus is also carrying fatal genetic flaws that are gender related. YOu just can't stand the fact that women are no longer slaves to their reproductive organs, and have the same sexual freedoms that men have enjoyed since the beginning of time. Suck it up, princess!
Actually, considering that all fetuses start off as female and abortions usually take place very early without any gender checking or ultrasounds, I'm pretty sure more females are technically aborted.
Holy crap, until I checked where this was from I could have sworn it was loveshy. Anyway, women don't get extra rights, then again to fundies "extra rights" means "Waaaaaah! I'm no longer better than people by default! Waaaaaah!".
EDIT: Ah, I see I'm not the only one who thought this was from loveshy.
@Cy: Yeah, and they never believe that we can tell there are ulterior motives at work. Or maybe think those don't count.
Also, 'collective pretty face' kind of demonstrates somebody's disconnect from the reality of other human beings.
Men in this country don't live as long simply because they take far riskier jobs and have crazier, riskier hobbies.
EDIT: I looked at that True Forced Loneliness website and it looks like a lot of those dudes are depressed as fuck, and that's their MAIN problem, not just having a tough time getting a date. The idea of it though is really silly: how can rejection be forced at all if it's the other parties choice?
@Amadaun: Sadly, I think some of them don't actually think there are "ulterior motives at work". Judging by the kinds of things I've heard some of them say, there's a subset of "nice guys" who think what their actions are the normal/best/standard paradigm for heterosexual relationships - the man treats the woman nicely, and the woman reciprocates by putting out: a straightforward trade of emotional intimacy for physical intimacy. When of course, in reality, relationships are much more complicated than that, and based on things like mutual compatibility, attraction, and genuinely caring for the other person as an individual, not a potential source of sex/affection.
They tend to then be the ones who complain bitterly when this doesn't work. After all, from their perspective, women as a group aren't doing what they should be - they're not repaying his investment of emotional intimacy with physical intimacy, and they're instead giving that physical intimacy to another man who, from the Nice Guy's point of view, isn't giving her the same level/quality of emotional intimacy.
And this got looooong. Whoops!
Well somebody wants desperately to get some poontang and control a woman's uterus. And feel morally and intellectually superior while doing so. Stay classy, Vox. You probably couldn't be more of a nutjob if you tried, but I'm sure you'll keep trying regardless. That takes real gumption, and I like that. Keep up the good work!
Hey, they are the civilizing force. We're a bunch of fucking barbarians. Without our wives and mothers we're burn civilization down every 10 or 15 years.
And anyway, they can have the extra 5 years of old age. That's a fair exchange for the 60 or so years of being a young healthy male.
'a woman's "right" to abort a male baby for being male is defended but a similar right to abort a female baby for being female is vehemently opposed'
Citation SERIOUSLY FUCKING NEEDED, Jackass!
"From the womb, in which a woman's "right" to abort a male baby for being male is defended but a similar right to abort a female baby for being female is vehemently opposed, to the grave,"
What the FUCK?!?!?!?
Oh, its Vox Day..he just makes shit up to make money and get attention.
Congratulations Vox, you sound particularly ignorant and stupid, and so I conclude that you'd make a good follower of God. I presume that you are an especially unattractive and repulsive man, both physically and mentally, as am I, and if so, then you have been chosen by God to be so, as you are more likely to be unreasonable and thick. Which is just perfect for God's purposes. So if you haven't yet joined a Christian sect, I suggest you get on to it straight away.
There is a relentless war being waged against American women that literally spans the entire extent of their lives. From the womb, where they can be forced on their mothers by males who won't take no for an answer, throughout their lives where they can be assaulted, molested, raped, beaten, controlled and dominated by fathers, grandfathers, brothers, boyfriends, husbands, male bosses and perfect strangers who think they possess a divine right along with their penises. Most women understand this on some level, but never believe it can happen to them...until it almost inevitably does, to some degree. Because we want to believe that all men aren't really like that, that the one we chose really won't do us that way. Because we're women and we want to believe the best of all of you, we do.
/bitter
I'm so glad Vox Day is here to mansplain why we should have our free will, consent and bodily autonomy revoked because some men have hurt fee-fees because we don't automatically date anyone who asks, by dog. What about teh menz!!!1!
@buff114:
“thus we see that mens health issues like prostate cancer are not nearly on the same footing as breast cancer.”
Oh, please. The reason that breast cancer has so many advocates is that in the 1980s, some people who had lost loved ones set up a foundation to study it, and it went from there. No one's preventing you from doing the same thing with prostate cancer.
It's really annoying when men (or any privileged group) say things like: “those selfish women are just creating awareness groups for things they care about! Why can't they do the same for things I care about??”
Get off your butt and do something.
Also, read and understand what Swede said about heart attacks.
@Alencon
“And anyway, they can have the extra 5 years of old age. That's a fair exchange for the 60 or so years of being a young healthy male.”
What the actual fuck? Go away. You're not helping.
@Vox Day:
“but like the nice dependable man who can't figure out why attractive women repeatedly reject him”
Those evil shallow women are always rejecting me! Never mind that I automatically reject any woman who isn’t what I consider “hot.” I deserve hot pussy! Why can’t I have it??? Waaaah!!!
You've been watching too many “nerdy schlub gets the hot girl that he deserves because he's so nice” movies. (As a nerdy girl, I am truly sick of those movies.)
“they simply can't believe that women truly do not think or behave like men”
You know what? As a woman, I’m really tired of this whole “women are a totes different species and we can never hope to understand their mysterious ways” bullcrap. We’re people, just like men, not something mysterious and impossible to figure out. (Or at least any more than anyone else.)
"the nice dependable man who can't figure out why attractive women repeatedly reject him in favor of unemployed losers with criminal records"
This phenomenon, by no means universal, is the only thing in this entire rant that makes any sense. For someone whose username is a pun on the Latin for "voice of God," you'd think he'd be a bit less.....fallible.
From the womb, in which a woman's "right" to abort a male baby for being male is defended but a similar right to abort a female baby for being female is vehemently opposed
I have never, ever heard of this anywhere before. Are you sure you didn't just make it up?
the nice dependable man who can't figure out why attractive women repeatedly reject him in favor of unemployed losers with criminal records
I've often wondered why women are attracted to "bad boys," but if you can't figure out why women keep rejecting you then maybe you should look in the mirror. Or else hang out at love-shy.com. You'll fit right in there.
despite women living 5.2 years longer than men on the average
And so I'll finish with a joke. Why do married men die before their wives do? Because they want to.
This is something I don't understand. If you're a "nice dependable" man and some woman prefers an unemployed loser with criminal record, then why the fuck do you feel the need to associate with that kind of a woman anyway? Why not look at other people? Just can't let it go, can you?
The rest is just indecipherable misogynistic bullshit, to which I can only say, "Fuck you, Vox Day, with a broomstick".
Actually, the only sex selective abortions who exist are in favour of males, not females, in China. And since they take more money than women, have more facilities and don't have to make compatible family and work, what's the "assault"?
However, the fact that those dependable nice men, whatever he means, only try to court attractive women because otherwise can´t brag in front of their friends and see them as objects is not a signal on a war on women.
This guy has an obsession with sex selection abortions. In fact, it mentioned it in China and India in another article of his leading, of course, to a total non-sequitur. I think that he has an issue with that, that is, the fact that women are the oppressed element, not the other way round.
" wherein the disparate impact of old age is ignored despite women living 5.2 years longer than men on the average, men are systematically, structurally and unstintingly under assault. "
This has got to do with biology ie. men having more testosterone. Pretty sure I read somewhere that male eunuchs on average live as long as women...why don't you go test that and remove yourself from the gene pool at the same time...win win.
Personally, when I find a girl or guy who I love, I'm going to behave in a way that will make them happy and will make them feel better. That is what loving someone means, to me. A desire to see them happier and better-off.
Not some mantastic urge to mate which can be sated by manipulating that person into being intimate with me.
The Bible states that someone isn't human, until 40 days outside of the womb. Your pro -Life campaign is invalid.
...oh, and Love-Shite.com is that way. ------>
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