What is marriage, and what are its limits? Can I marry an animal? A tree? A rock? A city? A child? Myself? A ghost? An idea? A philosophy? A boat? A legal system? Janet Reno? I mean, where are we going to set the limits?
Who/what should humans be able to legally marry, and why? Is a threshold ever reached where a type of marriage becomes nonsensical and therefore too problematic to be considered a good idea?
There are people in this world who wish to legally marry each of the things I mentioned in my list. But they are almost always denied legally doing so. Case by case, why?
And, please -- no one play the tired line, "How dare you compare something as great and noble as gay sex with bestiality! !1! !11!11!1One!1! !1!"
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Legally, at least in the Anglo-American tradition, in order to marry one must have the capacity to contract marriage. If one applies that requirement to the list provided for by the retard that posed the question, then the answer would be "no" to every item except for Janet Reno, as every other item lacks the capacity to contract marriage. (And ghosts don't exist.)
If Janet Reno is already married, then she might not have the capacity to contract marriage unless the legal system in question permits multiple-partner marriages, but hey, that's a small matter.
Consenting adults can marry other consenting adults. Gee, who'd have thought it was that simple.
It scares me to think that these fundies are even half-assed serious.
Perhaps people should stop playing the tired line of 'if you make gay marriage legal then people will want to marry animals next!' then... Can these people honestly not see how this could be slightly offensive, to say the least? Saying people will want to marry boats and ghosts, though, that's new...
"And, please -- no one play the tired line, "How dare you compare something as great and noble as gay sex with bestiality! !1! !11!11!1One!1! !1!""
Fuck you. I have free speech and I'll say whatever I want.
How dare you compare something as great and noble as gay sex with bestiality! !1! !11!11!1One!1! !1!
Humans marrying humans is all that needs to be said. You're the one using the tired line about the next step being bestiality. You are the one whose mind goes there.
A man marrying a man is still a human marrying a human. A woman marrying a woman is still a human marrying a human.
Your argument shows more about your own twisted mind than anything else.
"There are people in this world who wish to legally marry each of the things I mentioned in my list."
*facepalm* *headdesk* and *fail* - in no particular order... but I'd love to get citations to people wanting to marry an idea or a legal system!
You cannot marry an animal, a tree, rock, city, boat, or child because these things (and person -- the child) cannot give consent.
You cannot marry a ghost because a ghost is incorporeal, and unable to sign the contract. (Assuming, for the sake of argument, that ghosts are real.)
Ideas and philosophies aren't physical *things*, and cannot be married. Ditto for the legal system.
And... uh... why would anyone want to marry Janet Reno? Ew.
With gay sex, both participants are consenting adults. Sometimes, it's two teenagers, sure, but they're still giving consent.
Try and Bible your way out of that!
Here's where the line is drawn:
Adult humans can marry adult humans.
I hope that's not too hard to grasp.
I'm calling POE on this one... Take a look at his MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/iplayrags ).
"Couple seeking young bi girl for friend, possibly more. ;)"
Also, take a look at his girlfriend's mouth... Holy shit, she could put three dicks in it and still have room for a vacuum hose to suck out the juice!
"What is marriage, and what are its limits? Can I marry an animal? A tree? A rock? A city? A child? Myself? A ghost? An idea? A philosophy? A boat? A legal system? Janet Reno? I mean, where are we going to set the limits?
Who/what should humans be able to legally marry, and why? Is a threshold ever reached where a type of marriage becomes nonsensical and therefore too problematic to be considered a good idea?"
Must you really ask such things? Seriously. Exactly how many functioning brain cells do you have left?
"There are people in this world who wish to legally marry each of the things I mentioned in my list."
Yes, but you'll only find them in insane asylums or in alley ways in the bad part of town where they rant at garbage cans. Sane people do not desire any of the things you mentioned.
"But they are almost always denied legally doing so. Case by case, why?"
Maybe you should try to work this one out for yourself. If you actually crack this it might do you some good.
"And, please -- no one play the tired line, "How dare you compare something as great and noble as gay sex with bestiality! !1! !11!11!1One!1! !1!""
Say what?
Is it really that hard for people to understand that the limit is non-consensual. If the thing you wish to marry can't give consent then you can't marry it. So dead people, kids, animals, inanimate objects and abstract concepts are out of the question.
Actually, I wouldn't have any particular objection to somebody marrying a ghost.
Shame they almost certainly don't exist.
I mean, where are we going to set the limits?
Simple - marriage has to be between consenting adults. As Staples says, "that was easy!"
Since marriage is a contract, how about we set it to whoever can enter into a legally binding contract can get married.
This would basically be adults who are capable of making their own decisions. Unless you want animals buying houses and driving cars too.
Your welcome.
His my space page is all full of bullshit, he's a christian bancruptcy lawyer who's looking for a bi-girl to join him and his pet great white girlfriend (sorry the teeth threw me).
Oh lookit! The vice president of "Homophobes R Us". The differnce between a rock or an animal, is they aren't people.
Personally, with your apparent hatred and bigotry, you should be banned from marrying and recreating more idiots spewing such hatred just in case it's genetic.
It's funny, but if you check, people were saying the exact same thing about black/white marriages.
But for some reason, people have decided that's okay nowadays.
Funny.
informed consent CUNT
sorry I know that this has probably already been said, but it is fundamental, and they don't undersatand it.
Or they do, but are still fighting against gay marriage, which is the target of this hate-spiel!!
PS
fuindies eventually move beyonf the purely stupid into the realms of insanity
"There are people in this world who wish to legally marry each of the things I mentioned in my list. But they are almost always denied legally doing so. Case by case, why?"
Almost always, you say. You're saying that in rare cases, people HAVE legally married trees and - yourself?
Uh, excuse me,Ragtime, how do I put this delicately? Are you in an insane asylum? You just don't run into people every day who want to marry rocks, trees, cities, boats, and ghosts unless you are amongst the loonies! I would hate to call you a liar, so I'll just call you demented.
"And, please -- no one play the tired line, "How dare you compare something as great and noble as gay sex with bestiality! !1! !11!11!1One!1! !1!"
Oh, no, no, no, no! You can't just dismiss a perfectly legitimate argument with a facetious comment. Gay sex involves two (or more) consenting adult humans. Bestiality involves sex between a human and an animal. The two are not analogous in any way, whatsoever.
Listen here, idiot: If you write on a borad called "Wrong planet" i must assume you don't like it here, do you? Then guess what: we don't want you here, so pack your bags and GET OFF MY PLANET.
Well, I'll shoot the line "How dare you compare what two consenting adults do with simple sheep shagging." Aside from Janet Reno, none of the things are capable of giving legal consent, and thusly, are unable to enter into a legal contract. They don't work.
Well, I gotta agree with your rant about marrying Janet Reno.
I mean, there are some things too foul for even the most permissive legal system to contemplate....
No, no, no, no, no, imposable, don't exist, no, no, no, no yes.
The limit of marriage should be consenting adults.
Well, if we're going to get technical, if your Bible was given absolute authority, then we would be seeing people marrying children in exchange for livestock, as it was in the Biblical Days (Trademark).
As long as proper consent is given by BOTH sides, I don't see a problem...
Heck, you people marry out 9 year olds against their will to 50 year old pedos.
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