The Bible: a book of hate that will be banned?
If the Sodomites are allowed to be married and their act of copulation is viewed as an alternative lifestyle how long will it take the Bible to be banned since it condemns these actions. Wouldn't it be classified as a book of hate?
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The Bible is often used as a book of hate, judging by how often it is used to justify hatred of other people.
Regardless, the Bible wasn't banned before when people started doing things that didn't agree with it, so you're just being stupid.
Have you ever read the bible? How could anyone NOT classify the bible as a book of hate. That's one of the central themes: Hate, murder, rape, genocide, brutality, misogyny, and incomprehensibly weird shit.
Don't worry. We won't ban it. We'll just make all you Bible-thumpers read it in the original Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, etc.
"Wouldn't it be classified as a book of hate?"
You're getting warmer, doc. In fact, you're red hot!
The Bible: a book of hate that will be banned?
Yeah, it's a book of hate, all right -- and it ought to be banned.
But, thanks to the First Amendment -- that thing you guys want so desperately to get rid of -- it will remain available, just like "Mein Kampf".
"Look everybody, look at how persecuted I am!
Well not yet...but soon, soon they'll be persecuting me.
Yep, any minute now, just you wait it will happen, any time now they'll come after me..."
Fuck off, you needy, whiny, drama queens!
<walks away muttering further curses>
No. Banning books is wrong, banning it only pushes it underground where the followers become even more obsessed.
I do not feel that any book should be banned, no matter how bad. Mein Kampf and the Bible may both be hate filled tomes with the odd wisdom but banning them will not solve anything beyond convincing fundamentalists they are right and that they are fighting some kind of rebellious cause.
As it stands outright bans on most things are ineffective in halting their production in a capitalist society. Drugs are banned (criminal offences and such) but are still widespread. Religion is the opiate of the masses, the effect of a ban would be similar.
The solution is to discredit and destroy any favourable reputation the Bible has, in a similar fashion to governments attempting (somewhat unsuccessfully) to discredit illicit drugs as having any attraction or merit whatsoever.
How can you NOT call that bible a book of hate. It is filled with murder, genocide, infanticide, incest.... And those are just a few of the offensive things.
@OrionI do not feel that any book should be banned, no matter how bad. Mein Kampf and the Bible may both be hate filled tomes with the odd wisdom but banning them will not solve anything beyond convincing fundamentalists they are right and that they are fighting some kind of rebellious cause.
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An idea strikes! To fight the fundies, we organize free Bible giveaways. The less they can screech about their persecution, the less credence they have.
I don't feel it should be banned either - we are the ones who promote freedoms.
That said - it should definitely be stopped getting any type of preferential treatment (used for swearing ins, etc.), stopped as being 'special' (compared to other books, the babble has been in a class by itself(.
It should also be reclassified as a dark work of violent, pornographic fiction in libraries and bookstores. For that matter, reclassify the Koran and the Torah as well.
It IS a book of hate. Not just about sodomites (oh how they love that word.) but it hates women, it hates diversity, it hates other cultures, it hates EVERYTHING. It even hates clothes made out of two kinds of fibers!
Now banning that hateful waste of paper? I'm afraid that's unconstitutional.
I don't know about you, but at my old high school, they would have a week presenting, up front and displayed, books that other places have banned. The bible won't be banned. That's your people. Book burnings and bannings are your cup of tea, not ours. We accept all with only one rule. RESPECT. That is what I tell people who come to me and ask me my position on things. RESPECT. Your rights extend up to the point that they come up against the rights of others. You may believe in what you believe. I am not saying you are right NOR am I saying you are wrong. I am saying that you do your thing, I'll do mine.
Well it does call several times for children to be murdered. But I think you're safe. Generally speaking, the people you hate and fear aren't as vindictive towards you.
Not everyone would do the kind of fascist, book-burning shit you seem to think is anyone's first inclination, given the opportunity.
I do NOT want the bible banned. I want more people to read it with an open mind. That's how I became an atheist. It IS a book of hate, but it's also the best deconversion tool ever invented.
BTW, Olivencia, if you think banning gay marriage will prevent their "act of copulation," you are even more of a naive fool than you first appear and that's saying a lot.
"Go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." -- 1 Samuel 15
Nope, nothing hateful to see in this book.
The Bible: a book of hate. But it won't be banned. If we haven't banned it yet for its view on religions, women, and all the hatred its helped to build against Jews and even in justifying slavery, I think it will weather this storm as well. Don't you worry your pretty little head, paranoid internet dweller.
Most people don't feel a need to ban everything and anything they don't like or agree with.
Homosexual people do basically the same things in bed as heterosexual people do. With the tiny difference that there are two people of the same gender in there. (How many men haven't fantasized about sharing the bed with two girls?) Lesbians don't do fellatio, and gay men don't do cunnilingus. Anal sex is rather gender neutral, all have an anus. And some ARE one...
@ ausador :
No no no! Forget Jefferson's edits. The more copies of the Bible with all the really, really objectionable stuff still in it that get read, the more Christians will have second thoughts about their "holy" book.
Hmm... banning the bible. I would say yeah, sure, but why not keep it around? I mean, it's a handy tool when you want to use it against christians. Lol Besides, how else will those ignorant peons learn how to read? :D
Book of hate? Yes, it is. Check out WBC, they know what they are talking about: http://www.godhatesfags.com/faq.html#Hate . Banning it? Meh. There are tons of other shitty literature out there, and we're doing just fine.
No, it wouldn't, idiot. Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn contains an offensive word for African-Americans, but we don't ban it from public libraries for using that word because it was not an offensive word at the time the book was written.
Historical novels that show the level of antisemitism that was present at the time the story was set are not banned, because they show history as it was, not as we wish it had been.
So why would a book from 2000 years ago be banned for talking about how homosexuals were viewed by the society in which it was written?
It won't be banned. Is Mein Kampf a book of hate? Yeah. Is it banned? Uh, no. We don't ban books here, bitch. Well, outside of the public school system.
The Bible is hateful, yes, but we're not going to ban it. We don't ban Mein Kampf, either. We just don't make children read it.
Secular humanists aren't big into banning books. Only religiously-motivated jackasses who think they know better than everyone else want to burn, ban and destroy books for their content.
I think everyone should read the bible, and we should have a long conversation about the fact that eating shrimp and having gay sex are equally "abomination" in the eyes of that jealous demiurge known as YHVH. (Camarones a la diablo!!!)
Is a sex act a lifestyle now? Holy shit.
Yes the bible is evil. However, it serves the purpose of separating decent people from psychopaths. We wouldn't dream of separating the psychopaths from their bibles.
The Bible condemns wearing clothes of mixed fabrics and eating shellfish as well. We have been doing both for hundreds of years and the Bible hasn't been banned yet. You get back to us hundreds of years after gender-neutral marriage laws have been as generally accepted as polyblends and shrimp cocktails, and we'll see.
Comments have covered almost every point.
Various people have mentioned that the religious are more likely to ban or burn books. I'm including the motivation: the religious have taboos and superstisions, and sometimes an expansion and indoctrination agenda, making them more likely to perform such extreme acts (consider the concept of idolatry, for instance). The secular view of hatred is that it's wrong, contagious and disruptive to peace, incompatible with civil rights, unjust, etc. Wrong, but not taboo.
The best is for books full of hatred to be exposed as what they are and for education to include appriate guides to understand their origins and the motivations of their authors. For the Bible, modern secular theology understands much of it already. Sitz im leben, etc.
Ironically, biblical literalists would like schools to include uncertainty propaganda as part of biology, geology and cosmology courses. Except that here, the context is trying to dismiss known facts. This is thus misleading, dishonest and an attempt to corrupt education. Religiously motivated, like book censorship. In the case of theology, context is legitimate, appropriate and necessary, using the best understanding of mainstream historians.
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