I have ALWAYS known that that "fossil" thing was bogus science. There is no such thing as a liquid fossil. All fossils are petrified as hard as it gets. Also, when those dinosaurs died, their bodies dried up and blew away like any other dust. So which part of that dead dinosaur sank a mile under the earth to turn into anything at all, much less liquid oil? It is all another myth of evolution. We are smart enough to have been to the moon and back. so we should stop believing our fossil fairtytales. Global warming, global freezing, oil from dinosaurs, that we're supposed to run out of,-- all voodoo scare tactics for political tyranny. The TRUTH makes free. The Bible says that some people tell lies by calling them science , but that no true science will oppose the God who invented science
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Oil is a hydrocarbon, but not all hydrocarbons are oil. Methane and ethane are found in space and on Titan, Mars, etc, but for more complex substances like oil you need dead stuff. How difficault is this to fugure out? These gomers get one little bit of actual science in their head (science done by actual scientists) and they go mad crowing about how this overturns everything.
"The Bible says that some people tell lies by calling them science , but that no true science will oppose the God who invented science"
Uhm. No. No it doesn't. Because "science" wasn't even a concept yet when the //humans// who wrote the biblical scriptures were around. Not once does it ever mention science.
(And the fact that science didn't exist yet goes a long way toward explaining the popularity of the bible.)
"Also, when those dinosaurs died, their bodies dried up and blew away like any other dust."
That is how things die in Playstation games, not real life.
I notice that, despite shitting all over REAL science and facts, you provide no alternatives of your own. I guess it's pretty easy to be a know-it-all when you don't think you're required to do anything other than blind yourself to the truth and sneer.
Seriously, nobody in the world gives a shit that you've got an opinion that differs from facts. Nothing in that means you're right.
Uh the article is even worse.
Scientists: "We've found liquid hydrocarbons on titan!"
WND: "See, oil just magically spring from nowehere!"
@ Steve Mading
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1 Timothy 6:20
"The TRUTH makes free."
Huh?
"So which part of that dead dinosaur sank a mile under the earth to turn into anything at all, much less liquid oil? It is all another myth of evolution. "
Fundies combine total certitude of what they're saying with total ignorance of what they're talking about.
You're a moron. Not all dead animals become fossils. Otherwise we'd be swimming in fossils. Second of all, bones don't just dry up and blow away. They can get crushed, broken, smashed, and even eaten (well, the marrow anyway) but nowhere on Earth do they just up and turn to dust. Third, the Bible's "science" says that you can breed a striped or speckled goat by putting a striped or speckled rod in front of its parents when they fuck. The Bible has lost any right to play in the realm of science.
"The TRUTH makes free"
What does it make free?
From the pump at the corner gas station, silly.
Also, global warming isn't happening because it's cold outside.
Rose Pappas sees all, knows all.
Oil doesn't come from dead dinosaurs. Go into a swamp and stick your hand down in the muck. That's what will be oil millions of years from now, after it's been buried, compressed and all the oxygen has been squeezed out.
"There is no such thing as a liquid fossil."
Yes there is. "Fossil" really just means "excavated", from the Latin fossilis/fossus . Fossil bones were originally called such because they were bones obtained by excavation, fossil fuels likewise.
The specific palaeontological meaning came later.
@ #1489193
The passage isn't referring to science but knowledge ("gnosis" in Greek.) The author was encouraging Timothy to steer his flock away from gnosticism, a major rival to Pauline Christianity in the early days of the church. Gnosticism taught that it was mystical knowledge, not faith, that led a person to salvation.
Rose seems to be quite unaware of this bit of history. However, ignorance of history (particularly religious history) is quite common among the WND crowd. Heck, its practically a requirement.
All fossils are petrified as hard as it gets. Also, when those dinosaurs died, their bodies dried up and blew away like any other dust.
If all dinosaur bodies blew away as dust, where do their petrified fossils come from?
"The Bible says that some people tell lies by calling them science , but that no true science will oppose the God who invented science"
All cults warn their members that outsiders will tell them lies. Christianity is just the largest of the cults.
That being said, I don't recall a Bible passage which specifically mentions science. You might want to check on that, Rosie.
"We are smart enough to have been to the moon and back."
We? Really? You aren't even smart enough to tie your own shoes without help. I guess those astronauts must have prayed themselves onto the surface of the Moon.
"Fossils (from Latin fossus, literally "having been dug up") are the preserved remains or traces of animals (also known as zoolites), plants, and other organisms from the remote past."
Nothing in there about them having to be hard. Fossilisation and petrification are two different things, you can have a petrified fossil and an unpetrified fossil.
"The TRUTH makes free."
And here I thought you lot believed: "Arbeit Macht Frei". Who knew?
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Arbeit, Warheit, as long as it looks good over a gate right?
AbsurdONE
Fossil fuels come from bogs, marshes, forests, seas with blooming algae and plankton... that sort of thing. Areas dense with vegetable matter are the only thing with sufficient biomass to generate organic minerals. Dinosaurs didn't just pile up on top of each other and become fossil fuels.
As for dinosaurs, when they died, they rotted away, and if we're extremely lucky, their bones found themselves in conditions that led to preservation and mineralization. They sure as hell didn't break down into dust. They weren't made of unfired clay; they were very much living animals. Really, have you ever seen rotting or dried meat? If conditions are too hot and dry for rot, you'll get mummification, not a breakdown to dust.
And it's not like any of this stuff suddenly sank a mile down. Sediment can and in many locations does build up over many decades, and if we consider these deposits are tens of millions of years old, it's not really a stretch of the imagination to see how these things ended up deep under ground. (Toss in plate tectonics and erosion, and it's also pretty clear how we can find fish fossils on mountaintops as well.)
Rose Pappas? May I introduce you to Peat Moss. Peat Moss, Rose Pappas. The two of you have a lot in common in the brains department, but what Rose would really like to know is, why aren't you dust and hard as a rock at the same time?
Praise the Lord so He may strengthen our God given ignorance.
Dear Lord, the feisty strains of knowledge do impair our most devout supplications and overpower our most holy of incantations, drowning out our most sacred of meditations in the raucous din of reality. O Lord, give us, your unworthy servants, the power to resist the relentless terror of malicious science and satanic medications.
Let us return, O Lord, once more to the true science of the Bible and live according to your holy words, accepting the truth of your glorious unchanging world of eternal plenty and everlasting genocide. And, we beg you Lord, let us not be swayed by the subtle lies of quantum and other whispered demonics that we may bathe in the shining light of your infinite holy ignorance.
Amen
So which part of that dead dinosaur sank a mile under the earth to turn into anything at all, much less liquid oil?
None of them.
Oil isn't derived from dead dinosaurs, it's made from kerogens. Kerogens are the organic material left when plants, algae and plankton die and decay.
The Bible says that some people tell lies by calling them science , but that no true science will oppose the God who invented science
Your ignorance is showing.
"The TRUTH makes free."
Freebase, free love, free willy, free sonny barger, free ice-cream?
Sick of these people. They are simply not interested in facts, or anything to do with the real world. Presumably this was typed on a computer, with a search engine on it. And yet, he couldn't be bothered to type in "how fossils are formed", "how oil is formed".. that effort was just too much for him.
Chris-o the Aussie
Amen, brother. In fact, people stumbling through life without the faintest hint of context or a sense of scale has been the single greatest aggravation to me in American politics lately, not to mention religion, aeronautics, science, etc...
People always assume that just because there is a point/counterpoint, or a pro/con, that the point=counterpoint and pro=con. It's infuriating. The concept that things are not always exactly equivalent and don't necessarily neutralize one another is completely missing.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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