Also, considering the vast mass of humanity have held religious beliefs, both in the past and today, suggest that atheism is the abberation, not faith. It suggests that belief is normal, and that one would have to be “indoctrinated” in order not to believe.
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Since Catholicis, Islam, buddism(or any isolated religion for that matter) is in the same position as atheism, your logic fails.
Maybe it is because in ancient times until not long ago organised religions offered explanations for many phenomena that could not be explained naturally, because science was not far enough or even science was not invented back then. Think of electricity.
"Also, considering the vast mass of lemmings follow one another off of cliffs, both in the past and today, suggest that lemmings who don't follow are the abberation, not cliff jumping followers. It suggests that group suicide is normal, and that one would have to be “independent” in order not to jump."
That's because every time someone goes "This big imaginary person in the sky will punish anyone who doesn't do as I say", they want people to believe them.
"Also, considering the vast mass of humanity have raped (insert murdered/tortured/warred/whatever else), both in the past (and the situation now only reversed because the liberals made campain against rape, claiming it is wrong), suggest that not raping is the abberation, not abstaining from raping. It suggests that rapes are normal, and that one would have to be “indoctrinated” in order not to rape.
My opinion is that all human infants share a fundamental awareness and native intelligence...enough to have a very good moral sense without external indoctrination. Leave the child to grow in a healthy fashion, and the resulting adult is the epitome of a social creature.
Your argument from popularity fails.
Technically speaking, normal is always the majority, and indoctrination is always the word that the majority throws at the minority.
In reality, indoctrination is whatever you teach your children as they're growing up, because it turns out there is no absolute moral right or wrong. We make it up as we go.
"It suggests that belief is normal, and that one would have to be “indoctrinated” in order not to believe. "
The majority of my family are Christians.
There was no indoctrination, whatsoever, involved in my being an atheist. I never had any god-belief at all.
So much stupid, so little time.
Most discoveries and social progress toss out ancient beliefs and superstitions. Shall we go back to the dark ages for you so that you can be comfortable with the "norm" of history?
BTW no one is born with religion. It has to be taught.
Aethernaut, I know that comment is years old, but the biologist in me has to point out: Lemmings are smarter than fundies/cultists. They don't commit mass suicide.
All you can prove with that wide assertion is this. A religious belief has to indoctrinate it's followers against all competing beliefs or the lack of a belief.
Yes, you've been indoctrinated into a belief.
A lack of belief with all the attempts to indoctrinate is what marks an Atheist as a logical product of conflicting, contradicting and competing religions. Some say really looking into and actually reading the Bible is the quickest way to Atheism, looking into all religions or myths is the other way.
Know why Europeans have such high Atheist levels? Because they have comparitive religion classes and don't hide church atrocities in their history. America refuses comparision, introduction to other religion and church histories in their schools.
Also:
In other words I expect Atheism or at least disbelief of church doctrine to be much higher then reported at any time in history.
“Also, considering the vast mass of humanity have held religious beliefs, both in the past and today, suggest that atheism is the abberation, not faith.”
“It suggests that belief is normal,”
“and that one would have to be “indoctrinated” in order not to believe.”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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