God did not make man gay, nor did he make him a rapist, a child molester, a thief, a murderer, a heroin addict, a liar—..
Man makes choices.
No man woke up one day and decided to go shoot heroine. He instead started down a path, of doing wrong. He dropped out of school, he experimented with marijuana, he got addicted to pills—. then one day he was a full blown heroine addict.
Homosexuality is a series of choices, and a continuation of going down the wrong road.
Currently in America, the fastest growing group of homosexuals is among African American men. Got tell a brother that he is genetically more likely to become gay, and see if he does not knock the snot out of you.
Black males are getting affected because the most common introduction to homosexuality is behind bars in both jail and prison. Seven of ten black babies are being born into families with no father. Welfare has broken down the family system and when the family and morality break down, homosexuality follows.
HIV is not so much of a punishment for being gay, as much as homosexuality is a punishment for being ungodly. When nations turn away from God, and morality, homosexuality then flourishes.
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"He instead started down a path, of doing wrong. He dropped out of school, he experimented with marijuana, he got addicted to pills
. then one day he was a full blown heroine addict."
It's a miracle! No motivating factors, just derp da derp... what was step 2 again? Must be God's will!
"When nations turn away from God, and morality, homosexuality then flourishes."
Funny, I don't have a problem with that. Sucks for you guys when Christian "morality" gets replaced by tolerance and ethics, doesn't it?
What's wrong with heroines? Aren't men supposed to love women? If a man is addicted to heroines, he's not homosexual..
On the other hand, a man addicted to heroin has a problem.
Blah blah gay is evil because I'm lumping it in with all of these other things and absolutely no other reason. Oh and HIV because straight people never get HIV.
Another case of murder, arson and jaywalking.
"God did not make man gay, nor did he make him a rapist, a child molester, a thief, a murderer, a heroin addict, a liar
.."
Exactly! God doesn't make anything as God is a ficional character... oh, that's not what you meant, is it?
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...I'm sorry, but the username rangerskippy just...sooooooo funny....
As for the rest of his rant, it's laughable too.
"Currently in America, the fastest growing group of homosexuals is among African American men. Got tell a brother that he is genetically more likely to become gay, and see if he does not knock the snot out of you."
I don't think the group of homsexual African-Americans is growing, but I think the number those who finally come out of the closet is growing. Which makes sense, since for a long time African-Americans were one of the more religious ethnic and racial groups in the US.
"Seven of ten black babies are being born into families with no father. Welfare has broken down the family system and when the family and morality break down, homosexuality follows."
If a lack of family is the reason for homosexuality (I fell like taking a shower after typing that), we should be able to to see the same thing happen with children from teen pregnancies that were raised by single mothers. If you get that data, well, than you've still proven nothing except that a single mother can't put as much pressure on a son to stay in the closet as two parents can.
"When nations turn away from God, and morality, homosexuality then flourishes."
Yeah because then social pressure to lie to yourself is gone.
"God did not make man gay, nor did he make him a rapist, a child molester, a thief, a murderer, a heroin addict, a liar
.."
So, the Bible lies about God doing just that then...? Good to know...
The Israelites were defeated by the Assyrians because they fell away from their god. The Romans had crop failures because they fell away from their gods. Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans because they had gay parades. Every time something bad happens, somebody trots out some god or another to blame for it.
Rangerskippy, when did you make your sexual orientation choice?
I've been gay since my first sexual awakeneing. I have never been sexually aroused by a woman, much as I like women and their company. So how do you explain that? Not choice, fro sure. In fact, quite the opposite. I never wanted to be gay, and I was 30 when I finally decided that was the way it was, and I could do nothing about it. I spent a large part of my life living a lie because of arseholes like you. And it was life under pressure. I saw some break under that pressure and kill themselves. People like you have blood on your hands!
As to homosexuality being a series of choices, where is your evidence for that? None presented because there is none. You pulled it out of your arse.
And your racism is just as obnoxious!
I believe everything happens for a reason....as do most Christians.
so when bad things happen, commonly people will complain or not understand why these terrible things happen. Then later they realize it was to pave the road for something better.
God allegedly made everything and everyone, no? So when this perfect fit of events happens in a Christians life they give praise to the lord for his doing.
So could there just be a part of you Christians brains that could understand that maybe gays are the "bad" thing for you guys that makes the world more united in the future?
What I'll never get is how these people believe they chose to be straight, apparently. Can't they imagine for two seconds that for gay people being attracted to the same sex is the same as their innate feelings for the opposite sex? A sexual orientation is kind of different from an act of sexual violence or theft or murder or drug use or etc...
Also homosexuality doesn't even work that way and also that's some nice racism, there. More black people are put in prison due to racism and unfair drug laws. So fundies are totally cool with being racist, but being fair to gay people is just plain awful. Got it.
"a murderer"
Except when he tells his followers to kill innocent people so he can get his jollies.
God doesn't like it and has the power to stop it, but doesn't do so. This is because God is either:
1) A fucking moron
2) A psychopath who enjoys torturing people for petty non-crimes
3) Imaginary
> No man woke up one day and decided to go shoot heroine.
As a matter of fact, they usually do. You gotta get that first shot in order to become a drug addict.
Your analogy is flawed, anyways. One cannot choose to be attracted to their own gender. If you're gay, then you were gay from birth.
> Currently in America, the fastest growing group of homosexuals is among African American men.
[citation needed]
It's probably more along the lines of homophobia dying out than more people being gay.
> HIV is not so much of a punishment for being gay
It isn't. Straight people can get HIV too. And a lot of gay people don't get HIV. (Viruses don't just magically appear because someone had gay sex!)
> as much as homosexuality is a punishment for being ungodly.
What about gay Christians? Oh wait, "you can't be a real Christian if you're gay."
> When nations turn away from God, and morality, homosexuality then flourishes.
Homosexuality can flourish even when nobody turns away from morality. Just look at Canada or Sweden or the UK [by the way, Christians are still represent the majority of the populations of Canada and the UK!]
Your god supposedly made man in his own image and your bible clearly states his enthusiasm for murder, rape,child abuse, theft and dishonesty. Who are you blaming again, you bigoted piece of shit?
God did not make man gay ...
So let me get this straight ... are you saying you'd be equally attracted sexually to men and women, but at some point in your life you sat down and decided to forgo gay sex, be "straight" and stick with women because that's what God wanted you to do?
Are you saying you'd prefer to have sex with men if God didn't object?
Is he even looking at what he's typing?
"God did not make man gay... homosexuality is a punishment for being ungodly". Which is it? Is it something freely chosen, or is it something imposed?
Oh, and growing up without a father doesn't make you gay. That makes no sense.
You can choose your sexual partners, but you can't choose your sexual orientation. You certainly can't choose with whom you fall in love. And if a guy is "a full blown heroine addict", then he's crazy in love with strong women, not gay.
homosexuality is a punishment for being ungodly
Keep hammering that closet door shut, rangerskippy. Sounds like it's starting to show cracks, and you're panicking.
So you honestly think that if someone has no morals, the first thing they want to do is have gay sex instead of having heterosexual sex?
These people are totally insane.
"God did not make man."
Fixed that for you.
Hey, this one's got homophobia, racism, and misinformation about HIV! It's a hat trick of stupidity!
Evidence for any of this bullshit you're spreading around? Also, homosexuality is not a choice, if it was, how do you explain people "choosing" to be gay in countries where it means a jail sentence or death.
Being a fucking fundie moron, that's a choice.
Homosexuality is a series of choices, and a continuation of going down the wrong road.
This was proven to be a lie FOUR FUCKING YEARS AGO!
I'd love to see the facts to back this guy up. "the fastest growing group of homosexuals is among African American men" and "When nations turn away from God, and morality, homosexuality then flourishes" are factual statements that (probably) don't check out.
The most common "introduction" to homosexuality is for a male fetus to gestate in a womb that has previously housed several male fetuses.
Both jail and prison? Aren't those the same thing?
How did welfare break down the "family system"? Without welfare people would starve to death.
Confused?
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