[defending a literal interpretation of the Flood, inspite of the obvious cruelty implied... really, how did a literal flood kill them then?]
Show me where it says they drowned. The Bible speaks of Daniel thrown in the lion's den and everyone assumed he would be killed by the lions. You are jumping to the very same kind of conclusion by speaking to what the Bible is actually silent on.
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He's trying to say that they didn't drown?!? What the heck does he think happened -- that they were made of sugar and just dissolved?
There's manic, fanatical adherence to a belief in a loving, omniscient, omnipotent god in spite of philosophical and realistic evidence to the contrary -- and then there's total nonsense like this that even most people in the previous category would recognize for the insanity it is!
~David D.G.
Well, normally it's hard to quote the bible at these people, but...
From the Book of Genesis:
7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
That's right, it says three times that everything that was on land died. How can you claim the Bible is silent on that?
Rysith, the word "drowned" doesn't appear to have been used, so MethodMan apparently wants to conclude that they died by some comparatively humane method, rather than by drowning. How in the heck he expects anyone to buy that (or even how in the heck he ever bought the idea himself) is anyone's guess, but he evidently cannot abide the idea of God committing such an atrocity, and he cannot abide the idea that it didn't happen either, so this is his mind's attempt at coping with the dilemma.
But what else does he expect, really? Millions of coroners' reports for those people, all listing "heart failure" as the cause of death?
~David D.G.
Read Deuteronomy 28:15-68 for all the horrible things the Lord will do to you if you don't fulfill his commandments.
34 and 35 are great.
So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
<<< Show me where it says they drowned. >>>
Is your reading comprehension so poor? How else is a worldwide flood going to kill people? (Okay, maybe they starved to death when the waters got high enough to wipe out crops but weren't yet high enough to kill them. As though that's any better.)
<<< Clearly they all died of oxygen dihydride poisoning. >>>
<pedantry> Oxygen dihydride is not a good name for water, because hydrogen is less electronegative than oxygen. Hydride is the name for an H- ion, yet the hydrogen atoms in water are closer to H+ (the oxygen attracts the electrons more strongly). So it would be hydrogen oxide, or (more commonly used when trying to obscure the fact that it's water) dihydrogen monoxide. </pedantry>
That's right, god covered the earth with water and all of the giant half-angels turned into a race of Aqua-men and began the city of Atlantis.
How in the world does someone go about defending a book when they don't know of it's contents? Truly amazing.
Hey methodman, this story is in the front, so if you'd ever opened the bible and made an attempt at reading it, you should've hit the noah part by now. Sure, people reading the bible assumed that daniel was going to be eaten by the lions....until they read the rest of the story!
Julian, I've seen the basic e-mail-forwarded "warning" about dihydrogen monoxide before, but I had no idea that someone had gone to this much trouble about it. That is hilarious! Thanks for the link!
~David D.G.
It's a bird!, No, it's a plane! No wait, it's the point of that stupid story flying way over your head!
“Show me where it says they drowned. The Bible speaks of Daniel thrown in the lion's den and everyone assumed he would be killed by the lions. You are jumping to the very same kind of conclusion by speaking to what the Bible is actually silent on.”
I’m really not sure I understand this.
DO YOU MEAN that they didn’t die? Like Daniel didn’t die when everyone expected him to?
OR DO YOU MEAN that they died, but not necessarily by drowning?
Well, for the first option, in Genesis 6:7, The Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.”
Seems pretty clear none of them were going to be standing around welcoming Noah’s return.
For the second one, if God had the power to point his puissant finger at every single living human being, including adults, children, toddlers, babies, fetuses, blastocysts, and give each one an individual and instant death, what in the name of fuck was the purpose of the Flood?
That would be like sending assassins ashore in Iwo Jima to stab every Japanese soldier in their sleep, AND THEN bombing the corpses for three days afterwards.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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