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NothingIsImpossible #fundie christianforums.com

As soon as people bring up fallacies I ignore them. It's just another way to make someone look bad that you don't agree with. Its just an adult version of school yard name calling. Kind of like when all else fails insult someones grammar or spelling.

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mmbattlestar #fundie christianforums.com

Hello Wakalix. A creator is necessary because there is no other way that the universe can possibly exist. Think about it, the universe is so vast and creation is so unbelievable that there HAS to be a creator somehow. As an atheist I didn't believe it either like you don't but, it's the truth.

What evidence is there that scripture can be taken as a science text book? You mean besides faith? Well for one the Bible has predicted things since before Christ came to the earth. Like I said, it proved the world was round before Christopher Columbus proved it. It also proved in Genesis 3:15 that both men and women possess the seed of life (Sperm and the Egg). This wasn't discovered by science until the 17th century. These are just some of the things the Bible has proven.

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AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

Like I always say, I'll agree with science only insofar as it doesn't disagree with the Bible --- when it does --- then it has to go.

If you say these endomorphic regional virii (?) attach themselves to my DNA w/o my permission --- who am I to disagree?

But if you say that shows I came from Magilla Gorilla, I disagree.

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AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

(This fundie is talking about the Canaanite Genocide)

If God was responsible for genocide ... I promise you ... you would not even see one later on in the Bible.

In addition, there's that Catch-22 mentality you guys like to employ.

If they were to save the women, then you claim they were saved to be raped.

If they were to kill the women, then you claim it is genocide.

Your zealous false accusations are a dime a dozen.

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Happy to Help #fundie christianforums.com

Here's my story.

There's a woman who I met at my old job. She would prophesy to me. Telling me that god says " your time has come my son." She tells me she's really into god and that god uses her a lot. As I start to got to know her more she would eventually tell me god uses her to cast out demons.
Here's her story she told me,
At 19 she had a dream where a beautiful angel came to her giving her a light. She was not sure what it was at the time, so she said just continued to be in the world going out drinking doing all that stuff. But she said ever since that dream she had that she could see right through people. Basically she says she can see their heart. She can see what people are " all about " if they are with god or not. She can even look at someone's picture and know what will happen in their future.i have to add that when I was about 14-15. I played the ouija board inside my bedroom with friends. I didn't know any better at all. For I have just became a christian late 2012

In her early 30s she told me that god punished her for about 7 years because of all the time she spent in the world after receiving that light from the angel. She said god punished her because she lived in a house where a witch lived. She said it was horrible because demons would knock on her door and every Friday the witch would watch a horrible horror movie and put the volume on so loud.she said would always have to walk with her bible and go to church everyday.

Anyway that's the background story I guess, this is my concerns.

Since I was convinced she was serving god I let her pray for me.(she's like 43 now) She lays hands on me and speaks in tongues over me. She told me I have a demon inside of me and that she can see him saying that the ouija board was the cause of this.And when she speaks in tongues that its god speaking to the demon. Every time she prays for me she always spits very bad. Almost to the point of vomiting. It's weird, no one else who serves in my church spits like that. She tells me she spits because that's the way her body reacts to demons and that she's spitting out bad spirits. Also when she prophesies she just looks different and her eyes get really red. She says her eye hurts from all the light she sees. She says that god just takes over and speaks over her using her lips. She also told me in the beginning that there's been a few people who think she's a witch but she denies it. I get a lot of panic and anxiety in my chest. That used to happen before I even met her though.

I had an extremely real dream, where in my dream I actually woke up. It was so real. My dog was next to me and everything just as he was in real life. Then out of a sudden it was like a tornado. I got thrown off the bed with the covers and everything and the book I was reading " destined to reign" by Paul prince was thrown down with me which was also on the bed next to me in real life. I woke up and everything was normal but my body felt so extremely scared. I also had another dream where my little niece was over me and I was on some sort of operating table and my niece was trying to convince me to let her snip with scissors at my insides. And being my niece in the dream I was going to let her so in the dream she said " ok just a little snip here and there" and right before she was about to snip away there was a voice in my ear that was very low almost like a whisper and it said "noooooo" and I woke up right away.

Sorry for the long detailed message. God bless all who reads and will be able to help me. I can answer any more questions you may have. This is really bothering me.

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healingrainbow #fundie christianforums.com

(On a thread asking what Christians think of furries)

I think furry is a cartoon character. I don't believe that people can be one in real life. People can be very hairy but that just proves that person has a lot of hair. The amount of hair on your body doesn't make people any different because they still act and look human. You never see a person having dog ears. Animals are different in every way. God created us so that we are permanently human :amen:

And besides, people turning into furries is a evolution belief. I don't believe in that stuff, I only believe what God says because his word is the only thing that has evidence supporting it. I don't believe in something that sounds illogical. This is what I believe so don't try to get me to believe in evolution! You can't get me to change my mind, so don't bother!!!

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ExodusMe #fundie christianforums.com

I guess the question's purpose is mostly to tackle the assumptions of Christians who prefer a pluralistic society over a theocracy. I understand theocracies have failed repeatedly throughout history, but if the intention of the Church is to be in communion with God, shouldn't our government be that way also? Even if we attempt to have a theocracy in America and fail, wouldn't that be better than a democratic society based on the popular opinion of heretics, apostates, & infidels?

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FutureAndAHope #fundie christianforums.com

I have been out trying to represent the LORD in street evangelism of sorts. One time I was out trying to witness and I found it had to do so becasue of the crowds. But a man sat beside me and blashphemed, using the name Jesus as a curse word. Instantly I turned to him, not me but the Holy Spirit, spoke out "You better respect that name for Jesus is coming", the Holy Spirit then cause me to stare upward at the sky, it was a sunny day, then I began to say "Jesus is coming back, soon", and you need to repent of your sins for God is a God of purity, not homosexuality or lust. I was interrupted by a police officer, and as I stopped speaking it began to pour with rain, when the sky had been clear.

A second time I was out and wanted to try to prophecy, all that keep coming out of my mouth when I opened it was "Jesus is coming soon you had better get ready"

I have also over the last few years had a few end time dreams that would suggest Jesus is coming back with in our generation, like almost too soon for most to cope with.

Some of these dreams lead me to believe that before Jesus returns demons will mimic an alien invasion when they are released form the abyss onto the earth. I have just last night made a website about this at www.ufno.online

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AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

This actually doesn't require one to be a Rhodes scholar to figure out.

Unlike the gods of polytheism that you guys are accustomed to falling back on, God is always right.

In fact, He cannot do wrong.

So anything He does, He does it right.

Let's see you reconcile this paradox:

Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Ecclesiastes 3:3a A time to kill,

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AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

(For context, he is talking about God killing babies)

What's to deal with?

God pointed and said, "sic 'em"; and they obeyed.

Wouldn't you have?

(...)

I'm not denying anything, chief.

I'm even agreeing with your lack of understanding -- (unless you're just faking anger & frustration, which is probably the case here).

The Bible says it, that settles it.

God documented what He did, when He did it, how He did it, why He did it, what order He did it in, who He ordered to do it, where He did it, and who the eyewitnesses were.

And He certainly wasn't afraid of people like you coming along later to accuse Him of not following your standards.

(...)

I can't tell if you're disgusted because you think it was murder; or if you think it was murder because you're disgusted.

In any event, I think it was obedience, and I don't agree with the term "murder."

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Slytherina #fundie christianforums.com

And there's no evidence of Jesus being black. It's only a theory. What if Marry and Joseph's families came from Europe? There must clearly be a reason, Why the Holy Spirit gives artists a vision of a white Jesus.

This black Jesus theory has no real evidence.

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frienden thalord #fundie christianforums.com

The ideal you describe will come to pass one day, during the Great Tribulation. For three and a half years, there will be a great harmony between all religions. The antichrist will bring worldwide peace. All religions will become one, in the biggest ecumenical movement the world has ever seen.

OH you are very right on this point .
the weapon has done been formed. Its born now.
INTERFIATH.
Galatea you are right on this, very clear .
agnostics, atheist , lukewarm christains, muslims, buddits whatever the background
many even now are seeing the need for this , for world peace.
and it leads all who go under its delusion, RIGHT to the man of peace , the one who destroys many through peace.
In time this religion will be seen as the only way to have world peace.
Then comes the great tribulation, as the world cheers when ones like me
are eradicated from the earth. Hatred against the bible in this generation has skyrocketed.
and this religion swells in this generation, the religion that causes all to unite in time
and be as one voice has been born.
Humanity is not the answer. CHRIST is the answer.
But since man wants to be as god, soon he will have his god. and
their love and tolerance will be seen as hate and intolerance against the few true ones
who reject this lie , refusing to bow the knee to this god of humanity and his religion.

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jimmyjimmy #fundie christianforums.com

[on the subject of healthcare]

God created the free market system. It's beauty is found in its simplicity and fairness. Two parties engage in a free exchange. Both get what they desire, as they trade what they want less for what they want more.

People have become very confused about what rights are. They often speak of commodities as "rights"; however, we know that nothing that can be purchased is a right.

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frienden thalord #sexist christianforums.com

Christ did not come as a woman
the apostels were all male.
and if we heed pual he makes it very clear.
while a woman can teach , its other women she can teach.
but she cannot teach or ursurp authority over the man.
church leadership is AUTHORITY.
and I know women who follow this to the T.
they don't follow feminism..........they FOLLOW CHRIST.

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Danny Denton #fundie christianforums.com

I am not surprised that you are unaware of Darwin's comments from 'The Descent of Man', because few people are. This is by design. It is not in the best interest of the secular cabal that controls this nation for the truth to be made known. Secularists have sold us a mild mannered Charles Darwin who would not hurt a fly. In truth, he was a cold blooded killer. He might not have closed the door and turned on the gas, but he is just as guilty as those who did.

[followed by selectively edited quote from Darwin, followed by two other commenters on the board pointing out said selective editing and hoping that these were not the OP's words]

Those are my words. Charles Darwin was a murderer.

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Widlast #fundie christianforums.com

When the anti-Christ comes the Moslems will flock to him like flies to dung, Islam will end.
And we know that the reign of the anti-Christ is of very short duration.

It's going to get really ugly, but it won't last long.

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ImAllLikeOkWaitWhat #fundie christianforums.com

Is there a gay demon or a demon for every sin?

I read somewhere there were 177ish sins discussed in the bible. Is it farfetched to assume there is a demon or a legion of demons for every sin trying to get people to commit them? It also seems our minds are able to connect with the spiritual world and hence why we sometimes get thoughts that are against what the bible says we are to think about. What do you guys think?

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Angel Wings 1288 #fundie christianforums.com

History books portray the conquest and settlement of the Americas by European Christian nations as nothing short of brutal, a campaign of murder and genocide aimed at the destruction of the indigenous peoples.

Is such a portrayal accurate? Or is it actually revisionist nonsense that “conveniently” omits the good that came from the European colonial powers that conquered the New World, namely the spread of Christianity?

Prior to the arrival of godly nations such as Spain, the natives of regions like Mesoamerica believed in fake polytheistic gods such Quetzalcoatl and Tlaloc. They practiced sorcery and animism, and they even engaged in ritual murder sacrifice of humans. The natives’ ways were arguably evil.

When Spain conquered large parts of the New World, the Gospels followed and spread the light of our savior to barbaric cultures that desperately needed redemption from the Holy Spirit. Christianity took root in lands that were plagued by idolatry, wickedness, and violence. Today, hundreds of millions of people from North and South America now adhere to Jesus.

Since Christianity found its rightful place in the Americas, how could the Western conquest of the New World be such a bad thing? In my judgement, the Christian European colonialists and settlers were carrying out the will of God to propagate humanity’s one true faith. (Mark 16:15)

The Word of God, which is infallibly inscribed in the Bible, will always be preached and heard in the Western Hemisphere, and we can thank the conquering Christian colonial nations for this beautiful gift of life and salvation. No revisionist historian will ever blot out this indisputable truth, and Jesus will reign supreme in the Americas forever and ever.

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rockytopva #fundie christianforums.com

There is yet another form of light and energy that was brought down with Lucifer after they were booted out of heaven. This light and energy is in the form of Ego and as there is none of the true light and energy in ego, the ends are always cold and dark.

“Yes, a Jedi’s strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan’s apprentice.” - Yoda

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. -Mark 10:25

To capture the true light and energy the ego must be left behind! And to come to God and feel his light and energies you must do so in all humility!

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KnightOfTheRoundTable #fundie christianforums.com

Ok guys, some things that we should all admire about Franco.

1) He restored Traditional Values
2) He went to daily Communion
3) He expelled Communism from Spain
4) He dealt with Basque Terrorists
5) Homosexuals were arrested
6) Tranvesties were Arrested
7) Criminals were Arrested and were Appropriately Punished
8) Death penalty For Murderers
9) Non Vulgar media
10) Healthy sexuality was promoted
Wouldnt we as Christians want especially from number 5 Onwards to be positive things that we could have now in our wonderful Democratic countries?
(P.S. : I highly suspect this guy to be a troll. Seeing as he did not hang around long, possibly confirmed. Also, please do not generalize.)

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DennisTate #fundie christianforums.com

I firmly believe the prophecy that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is going to give
President Donald Trump eight years in office.......
but the flavour of his opposition can make his administration much
more effective in actually working out the plans that G-d has for America, Israel, all of America's allies,
and even for the Islamic world at this time.

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Kayla37 #fundie christianforums.com

We recently hired a new youth leader to our team a few months ago. She has been a believer for 6 years and seems to have zeal for her pursuit of the Lord and in time has formed great relationships with the girls in our group. Recently we had an annual indoor heated pool event for our youth group. The males are required to wear at least a tank top and the girls have to wear at least a one piece or a dark shirt over a two piece. The same rules obviously apply to the leaders. Quite to our surprise this particular leader obeyed in wearing a one piece but it was a thong in the back and extremely revealing so as to call unwanted attention and stumbling for the males and questions from the girls. She defended herself by stating she wasn't doing anything we weren't told to do which seemed like sliding by the rules because of lack of specifics. She doesn't seem to think her actions were wrong and unfortunately it seems we may have to remove her as a leader all because of this incident which will affect the girls she has already bonded with.

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mmksparbud #fundie christianforums.com

Not to mention the fact that this country, at it's greatest, before evolution reared it's ugly little head, was one of the most literate, best educated, most powerful countries in the world. The percentage of atheists was very minimal, we had God in our courts, our schools, and our homes. The introduction of atheism and evolution has dropped us down in every area, most certainly in education, with young people graduating from high school who can't even fill out an employment form properly, including being unable to even spell the name of their school correctly!! You have to be literate to read the bible, and it helps if you know math also! Not to mention that it influences people to learn other languages--backwards my foot!

You can not read the letters written by the founding fathers, and the following presidents without knowing that they were Christians and had no trouble with displaying their love of God even in Congress--always opened with prayer.

It's been the evolutionists that have brought this country down, esp in education. Children are being raised without regard for human life, without
God having created us, and dying to save us, they have nothing to hold unto, nothing to respect, nothing to lift them up above their poverty and no reason why they shouldn't just stay home and collect welfare money--The work ethic is not taught, nor care for others. Self is the god listened to now, and no reason to think of others as priceless treasures and and loved as such by a loving God and deserving of their dignity.--after all, who cares? We're just a bunch of animals anyway, might as well act like them. In fact, worse then animals--animals do not normally beat, abuse, and even kill their children--when they do kill them, it's because the offspring have abnormalities which the mothers know will keep them from being able to fend for themselves.

I have no doubt you will disagree with everything I've said, and I don't care-- We are the beloved children of the Most High God, and we will be inheriting all He has created for us---Sorry to hear your uncle is an ape, they can't give you much to be proud of, nor leave you anything but poop--enjoy.

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truefiction1 #fundie christianforums.com

If we buy into the idea (falsehood) that there is a separation that can exist between Church and state, then this civil vs religious marriage argument might make sense. However, there is no such separation, and whatever one single person does, even in what might be felt to be total isolation, effects all of humankind spanning all of time and space. There is no separation: we are all part of each other -- one body. When people afflict themselves with death by turning from God and following their own selfish desires, the rot that they bring upon themselves tries to spread like gangrenous poison to the rest of the body in order to afflict it with the stench of its evil. We are not made to live unto ourselves. Such a state is not Life, but death. It is not Light, but darkness. It is not good, but evil. "Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil" (Isaiah 5:20).

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DrumZ #fundie christianforums.com

WARNING: Obama is the anti-Christ!!! NO JOKE!!! The pope is the false prophet. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZd53ynuyrg!!!!!!!!LOOK AT THIS !!!!!!!!

THEN LOOK AT THE CHART!!! When Israel/Palestine sign a "peace treaty" in Late March (thanks to the United Nations Security Council) THEN #1 WILL BEGIN!!! WW3 SOON AFTER !!!! www.kjvprophecy.com/daniels_70th_week_chart.pdf

THIS IS HAPPENING!!!! THIS IS REAL LIFE!!!! WARNING!!! REPENT!!!! TURN FROM SINS!!!! FIND JESUS!!!!
OBAMA IS THE ANTI-CHRIST AND THE END IS NEAR!!!!! AMEN!!! :):):)

Pope says "We need to remember, that we are followers of Jesus Christ. And His life, humanly speaking, ended in failure on the cross" BLASPHEMY!!!! HE DIDN'T FAIL ON THE CROSS!!! HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DIE, AND GAVE HIMSELF WILLINGLY!!!

Why would the pope meet with the founders of the 2 largest tech companies, and not disclose what they talked about!??!?!
THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

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thesunisout #fundie christianforums.com

I don't think there is anything wrong with education, so long as it is based on the principles of Gods word. A preacher used to say that educating an unsaved person just turns them into a clever devil.

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CodyFaith #fundie christianforums.com

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


What is a more powerful delusion in these days than the theory of evolution, the age of the earth, and all things that stemmed forth from these theories to create the current secular ways of thinking?

Scripture says in the end times there will be a strong delusion sent by God purposely so that unbelievers and unrighteous people will believe a lie.

Now I don't believe evolution and such are all that will be put forth. There will be more to come that will be added to those theories. I also don't believe it's saying that all who believe in the current theories put forth are damned - no, I see it as saying that the final theory will be put forth will be a "believe or don't" type of thing, aligning with most likely the mark of the beast and things of that nature.

I don't see how evolution and age of the earth and other like-minded theories cannot be a part of it really. They're too powerful, too well-known, too believed.

It seems as though there will be final separation. Those who believe the lie, the goats, and those who believe the truth, the sheep. And it appears evolution is a big factor in this separation.

Thoughts?

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Calminian #fundie christianforums.com

What a great opportunity to show the world what true Christianity is. What a great opportunity to explain Christian forgiveness.

There's a debate raging about whether a man's past should condemn him. I think about the woman at the well. Christ forgave her very recent adultery. Yet we're struggling today with forgiving something Trump said 11 years ago about the attitudes he displayed many years before that.

Really? Maybe this is more of a commentary on the modern legalistic Church. Many of Trump's opponents are in legalistic cults like Mormonism. His top critic is Glenn Beck who touts the teachings of Joseph Smith often in his radio show.

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AlexDTX #fundie christianforums.com

I have been thinking about this for some time and would love everyone's feedback. All the pictures of Jesus I have seen painted always portray him as a 33 year old, and I believe this is incorrect.

Science tells me that it takes 7 years for every cell in the body to be replaced. In the first 3 cycles of 7 years we see the transformation of a infant to child; child to teen, and teen to adult. After 21 the growth process ends and the 7 year cycles are to replace the cells.

I realized when I first understood this that this is the reason we age. Because of sin in us our bodies do not replicate the cells exactly right and are a little off. Similar to a copy machine making copies of copies you get a deterioration in picture quality that eventually no longer looks like the first picture. Likewise with us; with each passing cycle of 7 years we age and look older until the cycle is so far off we die of natural causes.

Even with children growing to adulthood the effect of sin on their bodies is evident with blemishes, pimples, moles, etc. They just are not as noticeable due to the extreme changes occurring with their maturation.

But not so with Jesus. He was sinless from birth. Therefore he never had pimples or any other blemish, nor any sickness. When he reached twenty one, the next 7 year cycle would have perfectly replaced their cells, so at 28 he still looked 21. Likewise when he died at 33, five years into his next 7 year cycle, he would have still looked 21.

If God still uses this system when we get our glorified bodies, then we will all look 21 for ever.

BTW, as a side note, if men can say they are women trapped in a man's body, I think I am a 21 year old trapped in a 63 year old body, and I should get special rights ;).

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CherubRam #fundie christianforums.com

There are Atheist organizations, so therefore they are organized. All Atheist "believe" in evolution as a doctrine. All Atheist "believe" there is no God. All Atheist insist on their belief as being described as "disbelief," in an effort to distance themselves from being called a religion. In that way they can use government institutions to promote what they do, and do not believe. In other words, fool the public by changing dictionary terminology. You can cry foul all you want, but I am not so stupid as others to believe you. Terminology in the dictionaries is perverted to control how people communicate. Political correctness is for fooling the slow. I would like to point out that the disbelief in there being a God is a belief. Disbelief is a belief. This too is a matter of faith.

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twinserk #fundie christianforums.com

On the contrary, people who support the gay community and fellowship with them are in rebellion against God.

We are instructed to keep away from those who wantonly break God's law. Paul openly labeled homosexuals as individuals who are filled with all manner of wickedness, envy, deceit, and disobedience.

Are we to be friends with such people? Are we to give our approval and support to them? No.

Christians like you really frustrate me, because you're sitting here preaching from the hilltops something that is altogether unbiblical, and against God's will. And before you bring up the Messiah eating and drinking with sinners, please read the verse:

Mark 2:17 When the Messiah heard it, He saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.?

He was there to lead them out of darkness and into light, to heal them and bring them out of a life of sin. Not to support and subsidize their wanton mental depravities. He was acting as a doctor, not a long lost buddy.

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joshua 1 9 #fundie christianforums.com

I am glad you asked that. I am betting that Trump will win by a land slide 370. I am still losing ten cents on that bet, but I look at the primary where Trump was the underdog and he still won by a substantial amount. Right now I am ahead $14.05 on Trump. I am actually ahead 20 cents on Connecticut. People were so sure that he could not win in Conn that I was able to get that for pennys. I could make 10 times on that. For every dollar I could make 10. I attended a high school there in that state for two years. So I thought I would bet for old time sake. Conn is really tied in with New York so it would be almost unheard of that Trump could take that state. If anyone anywhere does not like Trump it is NYC. "A prophet is not without honor except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home." Mark 6:4

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Skyler Bench #fundie christianforums.com

I like patriarchy and feel it fits the best model for human interaction in society. We can see from radical feminists and other extremists that their path leads nowhere and offers little more than illogical nonsense and the undermining of all that is good and holy.

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pat34lee #fundie christianforums.com

Other user: I don't have a problem with any of that. Most of the world gets by just fine with unisex bathrooms and changing areas.

Pat34lee: Most of the world is a cesspool and can stay that way. It has no bearing here.

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watchfulChristian #fundie christianforums.com

Which year does the Tribulation start?

There are seven sets of seven from June 7, 1967 (double fulfilment of Dan. 9.25) when Israel became a nation to the Day of Atonement June 23, 2015 (total of 17,640 days);
when Jesus returns, He judges the nations for 30 days from the 1260th to the 1290th day;
2015 is a Jubilee year once every 50 years and it is a Sabbath year once every seven years (these years are confirmed going back to the start of the first Jubilee which was 3986 BC when Adam was 18 years old;
thus, the Tribulation must start on Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14 in 2015.
What day does Jesus step down on the mount of olives?

Jesus would step down on the 2,520th day which would be Aug. 7, 2022.

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James of Arc #fundie christianforums.com

You may think I am joking but I am not. I cannot watch a woman preacher without lusting after her in some way or another even if it is for only a few seconds and that is the reason I believe that women should not be on the stage in front of men preaching. A woman does not lust after men but men lust after women and you cant listen to a sermon while checking her out, it is just wrong.

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blackribbon #fundie christianforums.com

Adam and Eve were obviously a perfect mix of all potential genetic combinations. I listened to one speaker describe that when giving birth, they must have always been in awe of what each child looked like...this one dark skin, this one red hair, etc because they both had to be "one of everything".

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Hallstone #fundie christianforums.com

No woman is forced to be a wife and mother, but if she chooses to do that then she is wise if she practices the divine order, because a wife and mother that works outside the home neglects her home, children, and husband and she is tempted and influenced by selfish ambition, it is better for her to work at home and be satisfied with how much money her husband makes, and make due with that and homeschool her children in the ways of the Lord and her home will be blessed, this is what the scripture is trying to convey.

Tit 2:3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good,
Tit 2:4 so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
Tit 2:5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.

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James of Arc #fundie christianforums.com

What I find disturbing is how we in America is taking on the Egyptian culture instead of the traditional Greek/Roman culture we have always been. Our Government buildings in Washington and most state capitals have always reflected the Roman and Greek culture that we evolved from but if you drive across the country you will see lots of pyramids unlike I have ever seen before. I asked an architect once and he said it was because pyramids are a simple design and cheap to build but I personally believe it is us growing away from the good that we once were and we are evolving into an evil culture.

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thatbrian #fundie christianforums.com

In the west, we have a live and let live attitude toward other religions (for the most part); however, Islam is an all or nothing deal. There is no tolerance for other religions.

Of course many Muslims are nice and pleasant. That's their MO until their population grows to critical mass. When that happens, as it's begun to in Europe, watch out because they have one objective: world domination, and that does not fit with the American way, democracy and religious pluralism. Sharia Law is how they will manage it.

Islamic ideology is incompatible with democracy.

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samir #fundie christianforums.com

During the Middle Ages in Europe, most people were Christian and had morals because the government helped keep them on the straight and narrow path. I'm willing to bet a high percentage went to heaven. In America, with freedom of religion and freedom of the press, people are allowed to teach whatever Satanic lies they want to teach and as a result so many people are deceived and living ungodly lives. I bet most will go to hell. That's what I'd call a disaster.

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benedictaoo #fundie christianforums.com

So, Catholics, are we ready to make America great again!?

Trump rally. Orthodox Pro Life Catholics for Trump! Are you with me?! Yeah!! Doing a rally/ Orthodox Pro Life Catholics for Trump count. I'm all in for Trump because, well there's no other choice. They're is Pro choice but that's not a choice, were Catholics!

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joshua 1 9 #fundie christianforums.com

Not one person accepts the theory of common ancestor on this board. Adam, Noah, Abraham were all common ancestor. If you reject that then that means you reject the theory of common ancestor.

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yeshuaslavejeff #fundie christianforums.com

[In response to the fact that 4 in 10 Americans believe humans were created in their present form]

So, you see,
satan, the devil, is gaining converts every day.
With lots of free help from so-called ..... well, let's just say lots of help from humans .

Evolution is and has been satan's ploy for a long time now.
It is popular with satan, and with his slaves.

It doesn't even belong in a believer's conversation. (it distracts entirely from the truth, and tempts even more humans to continue sinning and to even get worse)
(just 'discussing' it opens the door to more people falling away forever,
as satan well knows and delights in it, for he thus gains many more souls
lost forever from God the Creator and Jesus the Savior)

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joshua 1 9 #fundie christianforums.com

I am a descendant of the Vikings and what happened in the year 800 is that the Vikings were offered some land by France IF they gave up their Pagan beliefs and converted to Christianity. That is exactly what they did. So if the Vikings could find the truth over 1200 years ago then what is the excuse of scoffers, skeptics and infidels today who stumble around today and can not seem to find the truth? They reject a time honored tradition going back to our fathers at the beginning of recorded history and what do they get in return after having given everything? Nothing really a big fat zero. The Bible is what civilization is based on. Without the Bible you have terrorism, death, destruction and ruin. Look at the condition of the world today. We have not had a world like this sense WW2.

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Shempster #fundie christianforums.com

It all boils down to this: there are a group of like-minded folks who want to eliminate not only the moral code of behavior but the very thought in another persons head that sexual sin is wrong.
The irony is that we could do that ( and our country IS doing that) but nothing will stop that still small voice inside of someone. Believe me...people do know it in their hearts when they do wrong. They just think that if everyone supports and celebrates gay activities that everything will be ok.

And it doesn't work. So the answer is that they want to eliminate the moral code which was pushed ahead in the 40's and 50's.

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Calypsis4 #fundie christianforums.com

(It is so odd to me that all of the above is rejected as fake by evolutionists and yet the unproven "theory" of man from ape (or ape's ancestor as some prefer to claim) with not one fossilized remain...is so readily accepted. To do that, as a Christian, they must walk a tight line...picking and choosing, slicing and dicing the Creator's work to fit somehow with His Word. )

Yes. Thank you.

But that is because theistic evolutionists are dishonest in their hearts about scripture to begin with and therefore they won't accept ANY evidence that goes against their prejudices.

But the day will come when evolution theory will vanish from the earth forever. Lord Jesus come quickly!

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Calypsis4 #fundie christianforums.com

(Note: the image included isn't a shark, it's an osteoglossomorphan fish called Xiphactinus)

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Quote: "This prehistoric shark fossil is exhibited at the University of Kansas Natural History Museum. Many shark fossils were found in Kansas."
Multimedia Reporting (Broholm-Carroll): November 2009 Archives

Sharks 'evolve', right?:thumbsup:

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Calypsis4 #fundie christianforums.com

Son: Dad, this has been such a great trip. Nearly 3,000 miles of driving and still no evidence for the so-called Genesis flood.

Scientist: Right, son. I told you that you couldn't believe those Bible thumpers at church.

Son: Yeah, I think I will probably quit going after all this. By the way, where are we headed now?

Scientist: On the way home we are going to stop at this great museum that's got the most fabulous fossil shark you've ever seen. The thing is virtually perfectly preserved.

Son: Really? Where did they find the shark?

Scientist: In Kansas.^_^

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GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta #fundie christianforums.com

Personally, I don't feel that most women would submit to any man's authority, as most are of a reprobate mind. Therefore, they put unrealistic expectations on a man, claiming that "if this man loved me the way Christ loved the church", I'd submit. It doesn't work that way. A woman is to submit to her husband in all things. She is to obey him. God's word says so much. Modern women, even many, perhaps a majority that attend church, claim that they'd never submit, or they claim they'd submit if he is worth submitting to. God tells you frankly to submit. The man doesn't have to pat your ego and be all lovey-dovey dough-eyed with you to show you that he loves you, or for you to support him.

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joshua 1 9 #fundie christianforums.com

As a Christian parts of our brain function that does not function for non christians. There is evidence for that when they scan the brain. Without religion mankind would all die off. Non religious people have a reprobate brain, they have not advanced and developed a regenerated brain the way people do that learn how to function in a loving, caring religious community.

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rjs330 #fundie christianforums.com

Evolution itself has evolved because it can't prove its premis. It used to say we came from apes that apes were our ancestor. But it has evolved in its presentation and took away that part. Now it's a common ancestor even though they can't say or show what that common ancestor was. If you follow their logic far enough every living thing including plants and animals, cells viruses esentially everything came from a common ancestor. That takes as much faith to believe as it does to believe that God just created it. Cause there is no proof of any of it.

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Born Again2004 #fundie christianforums.com

I don't need science, I have Jesus in me that tells me it is true but, saying that, science /mathematics say that it is impossible that Jesus wasn't who he said he was based on the prophecies fulfilled. You have to look it up but it is something like if Jesus only fulfill 8 or 9 prophecies, and he has fulfilled hundreds, the probability that he is God, is 16 to the power of 10
or 160,000,000,000 : 1 ...or.... 160 trillion that he is : to one he isn't!

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aiki #fundie christianforums.com

We can make the poor, rich, the weak, strong, the oppressed, free but if we fail to warn them of the wrath of God to come and neglect to share with them the way of salvation, we have done nothing of eternal value. We have only made them comfortable on their way to hell.

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Jed Man #fundie christianforums.com

I was on a forum having a long discussion about God and the Bible. It was fine until the Holocaust was brought up. I mentioned how God would lift his protection on people if they rejected his ways, theorizing that that's why the Holocaust happened. God lifted his protection, and the devil stepped in to terrorize them as he's done in the past, hence Exodus and Judges. But then this man I spoke with stated that turning away from dead people made God as bad as Hitler.

Angrily, I brought up the book of Revalations and how this guy clearly never read it, and somehow thinks he can judge God when he doesn't know anything about him. Obviously, he was looking for bad points about God instead of trying to learn about it, so I left. But he'll obviously reply, so I don't want to go back. But a part of me keeps wondering.

How do you try to forget about it? He doesn't want knowledge. What do you do in a time like this?

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CCHIPSS #fundie christianforums.com

If a woman should ever teach a man, they must quote easy and clear verses directly from the bible. This leaves very little room for misinterpretation. Alternatively the women's ideas must be taught by (or came from) a well respected male teachers/pastors/elders, as descried in 1 Timothy 3. These elders must be proven Godly, truly wanting to follow Jesus, by their actions, not merely words.

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So this is not about if man is smarter or woman is smarter. Or which sex is better. Not at all. Because at one point in human history, woman was clearly smarter than man. However being smarter didn't help Eve to make things better didn't it? In fact in her "wisdom" she made it worst. Let Adam also eat so he can die with her! What a loving gesture.

Satan would want you to view it as a problem of gender equality. But this is actually a matter of spiritual warfare, of women being more easily deceived than man. Satan will work extra hard against women. Spiritual warfare have no logic or reason, and wisdom without God doesn't help. This is unseen in this world.

That's why it will be impossible to prove in this world. That a woman can be smarter, better and more experienced yet be more easily deceived by Satan. We cannot logic or reason it. We must, in faith, to take the word of God as it is stated.

This doesn't mean women cannot teach men at all (as we seen in the cases of Mary Magdalene and Deborah). But the bible said what it said about woman being more easily deceived by Satan. Hence we have to be careful.

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James of Arc #fundie christianforums.com

[this is posts #7 and #9 combined; the link is to #9]

I feel that MacArthur's biggest mistake was he did not make the Japanese convert to Christianity.

But if MacArthur would have had them become Christian of which he could have as he was supreme commander to a country that had surrendered to him we could have had the Church right at the edge of China and in Asia. What a victory we could have had.

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James of Arc #fundie christianforums.com

One of my sisters just had all her stuff taken out because she had been bleeding for so long. I don't even understand your guys systems so please keep me in the dark about this stuff. I can build motors, weld, build motorcycles, run CNC machinery but I still have not figured out the woman's reproductive system and I don't want to.

I seem to remember a little about it but I tried to forget it as soon as I could. I like knowing just the basics to get my by on my wedding night and the rest I don't care about.

[Note: this is from two posts of his on the same page, and the link is to the second one; none of it has been removed]

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CCHIPSS #fundie christianforums.com

God designed women to be submissive to men, as long as it isn't abusive. By this I do not mean a woman cannot speak her mind. But she is designed to look up to her husband. A woman might chose to rebel and instead try to overpower the man. But I have yet to see a happy marriage where the woman overpowers the man.

If the man is strong, he will fight back against the woman and they just fight day and night. If the man is weak and chose to submit, the woman look down on her man day and night. However she just feel disappointment and resentment. Women like these are never truly happy because women are not designed this way.

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akmom #fundie christianforums.com

I have seen the comments in news articles frequently divulge into attacks on religion - mostly snarky, no real debate involved. Kids are very impressionable to this. And it's all over the place, not just classrooms or churches or other places where debate is appropriate. All you can really do is prepare them for it, teach them the issues behind it and encourage them to discern. Otherwise they may feel compelled to identify with "science," because someone convinced them that it was cooler, or more convincing, and that you can't believe both.

There are all sorts of propaganda techniques that can make kids feel like they have to "choose" science over faith. It might be a good idea to introduce your daughter to the different types of propaganda, so she can recognize them.

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Brokenhill #fundie christianforums.com

Inferior? No. But yes, Paul teaches correctly God's preferred headship on earth...that the man is the head (or leader) of the woman.
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So to repeat the order of leadership/headship: God-->Jesus-->Man-->Woman. This still holds true today regardless of what is politically correct in modern times.

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EastCoastRemnant #fundie christianforums.com

[After someone explained that intersex babies exist...]

So because of the degradation of sin upon our genetics causing all sorts of regressive, mutations to our offspring, you say that is the reason to disregard what God explicitly stated. Maybe some are born with developmental anger issues... does God dismiss the prohibition against the 6th commandment?

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Imagican #fundie christianforums.com

It's kind of amazing how those that try to make women equal to men always seem to try and point out: "you know, the words offered by Paul were certainly influenced by the politics and such of the 'time'."

What do you suppose that the politics and such of that time were 'based' upon? Where do you suppose the Jews learned their behavior from as concerns the 'place' of men and women?

The Bible clearly states that because of Eve's deception, part of her punishment was that she would be under the 'rule' of her husband: Adam. He would 'rule' over her.

And I find nothing throughout the rest of the Bible in it's entirety that alters this format.
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So is it really up to us to debate the issue? If we claim to be believers in the Bible: God's Word, is there any room for debate if God's Word clearly states that man is the Head of woman?

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Goodbook #fundie christianforums.com

I'm not sure I understand why CS Lewis wrote the things he did, it seemed like he was christian but then he wrote about lions and witches and wardrobes.

i remmeber seeing this movie as a child and I did not think it was actually christian. It was more fairy tale. Actually it scared me a bit when I was young because it suggested that wardrobes could be portals to this other world.

Later when I became a christian CS Lewis writings didnt make much senese either. It seemed he was advocating anglicanism as a religion rather than actually being born again.
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Why was he writing about witches etc when we are meant to avoid all appearance of evil?

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Goodbook #fundie christianforums.com

I told my cousin who was at the age where she was into harry potter you know if Harry had just forgiven whats his name and let go he wouldnt have had to go through all that trouble.
If someone killed your parents you dont go out and destroy them you just trust the Lord to avenge for you...

She then said oh yea lol. Then there would be no story. But I think the whole point of it was to get people interested in witchcraft and trained up into it, well at least making it attractive. Thankfully my cousin wasnt obssessed or hooked into it, but I would see children that were and got into darker things (i worked in a public library, i knew all the occult books they had)

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Goodbook #fundie christianforums.com

If someone is a christian and they are having mental health issues they may be under satanic attack and actually be listening to lies and having thoughts that shouldn't be there in their mind. The best thing is to get them or invite them to focus on scripture to remind them of WHO they are in Christ.

Pray for them and show them how to rebuke these evil thoughts. When a christian knows how to submit to God and RESIST the devil then satan can no longer attack them.

If this person isn't a christian then stay away but I would pray for them anyway that they know the truth, as once they know the truth they can be set free...you didn't mention if they were and said they 'enjoyed' those thoughts, well, a christian wouldn't. A christian might have these thoughts but KNOW they are wrong and ungodly. An unbeliever in darkness may not. If that is the case shine the light so that they are drawn to Jesus instead.

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kmrichard7 #fundie christianforums.com

I would also let them know that while they may not be sexually attracted to someone of the opposite sex, we chose who we love and they are plenty capable of having a healthy and happy marriage with someone of the opposite sex, and that its a lie society has told us that love is not a choice. It is.

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mea kulpa #fundie christianforums.com

The west is in a crisis of faith christianity nad catholicism is being attacked on all sides the faith is in massive decline... we are essentially a post christian society and now the pope is requesting we flood the west with muslims... it beggers belief

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EastCoastRemnant #fundie christianforums.com

Evolution is probably the biggest dichotomy that youths face as science in schools rarely agrees with the truths of the Bible. Seeing how the kids are in these learning environments longer than any other form of supervised education, it shouldn't be a real surprise that the kids fall away from believing the "stories" they were taught as kids. "Real" science happens in academia, so they think because this is all they know. I had a 10 year old neighbour come up to me and challenge me that man came from apes and not God because her teacher said so and why would the teacher lie, etc... so sad to see the innocence ripped away fro these young ones as they are indoctrinated into satans kingdom.

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Athanasias #fundie christianforums.com

Did Adam fart before the fall? This gets into alot of questions about the anthropological body/soul relation and sin. Discuss amongst yourselves. And Yes this is a serious theological/philosophical question that Dr. Peter Kreeft ask in Calvin college when he was a calvinist studying theology.

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AGTG #fundie christianforums.com

If you notice in the media, which I don't recommend watching much of as a Christian, you will see lots of depictions of women popping their cellphone into their back pocket. By extension, you see it in the every day world. It does appear to be something the enemy wants women to do, but it's worth noting the proximity of such a thing to a woman's reproductive organs. We have no idea what kind of influence those electro-magnetic waves have, but the fact that the media, which is run by the enemy, is trying to guide the world to do this should indicate it's probably not a good idea.

So... I suppose I agree with your assertion. The next question should be what do we do as Christians when God exposes such plans of the enemy. The answer, of course, is pray! And pray big, because the power and authority of Christ Jesus seated at the right hand of Father God above every principality and power in heaven and on earth is tops. And that authority will come forth when we pray Father God's will down here on earth.

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rusmeister #fundie christianforums.com

Generally speaking, the field of psychology is a modern, and tenerally anti-Christian and anti-Orthodox thing in both its origins and most of its applications, for it really purports to replace the Church as the means of treating the soul of man. That Christians, even Orthodox ones, have managed to turn some of its tendencies to good use doesn't change the overall concept, that man's behavior may be predicted, controlled, and separated from his spiritual life, that it need have no connection to religious Truth. You've got it wrong. It gasn't been hijacked. It IS a hijack, and it is Christian hijacking of the anti-Christian thing that can sometimes be justified.
So I'll go on bashing psychology. I look at its history, what it arose among, when and why, and why much more intelligent men of earlier centuries saw no such thing, and have decided that it needs to be bashed. The psych "sciences" are pseudo-sciences, that are only right coincidentally, insofar as they align with the truth about the human soul.

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Shempster #fundie christianforums.com

People who claim to be gay are simply afflicted with simple demonic oppression by a demon that specializes in being gay. You are probably much more likely to be gay if you are an atheist but that is a generality

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rockytopva #fundie christianforums.com

So tell me, why does someone need to have a supernatural force, to be kind, loving and compassionate?

"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God… all this talk about God is sheer nonsense." - Joseph Stalin to a boyhood friend

If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, virtue, compassion, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)


If E = mc2 then one can divide and say that m = E/c2. Therefore all of creation came into existence with the Fathers great Energy and Light... In which there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2... The sun is E/c2 in the form of plasma... The Earth is cooled E/c2.
Mental E/c2... Our ability to think comes from E/c2
Spiritual E/c2... Energy (Virtue, Motivation, Love) / c2 (Faith, Hope, Charity, Joy)

The foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. - 1 Corinthians 1:25

Yes... Joseph Stalin was right... The power of God is non-sense...There is no intellectual value to virtue, love, faith, hope, charity, and joy. As darkness is the opposite of light so the opposite of virtue, love, faith, hope, charity, and joy is vice, hate, fear, depression, greed, and sorrow.

It is the presence of the Spiritual E/c2 that is Christianities greatest friend. And its powers brought back Christianity to the Russian people...

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interpreter #fundie christianforums.com

"Don't most of you claim to follow the man who said "love your neighbor as yourself"? I don't remember any exceptions to that one..."

There is one exception. We are commanded to kill the enemies of Jesus (in Luke 19:27).

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interpreter #fundie christianforums.com

"Should we intentionally target the families of terrorists for extermination?"

Definitely. The terrorists radicalize their children beginning when they are toddlers, also their women. They all have to be killed like Donald "When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo?" Trump says.

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Crowns&Laurels #fundie christianforums.com

The coming of Christ is the most controversial event in human history. Atheists dismiss him in favor of things which are irrelevant. Dawkins is irrelevant, Hawking is irrelevant, science is irrelevant- it's all only serves as a distraction and a blindfold.

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Patrick T #racist christianforums.com

You sure do. Btw did you ever see anyone cry at the collosseum? Or at Maya ruins? Nope. Same thing. I wasn´t there. I don´t know said person not personal so any shown "sadness" is pure for show and memoria folcloristic.

I visited Buchenwald. I was as touched as i was at the local bus station.

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MaxR1996 #fundie christianforums.com

I believe the Bible is the literal word of God.

Thus I believe there truly is a firmament, the sky is the firmament.

We are living on a flat disc earth, surrounded in a physical firmament, in which God's watches over all of us, like a snow globe.

I believe the rhetoric that Earth is a spinning ball moving a millions miles per day around the sun, in a solar system, in a galaxy, in a universe, is a complete and utter lie, to try to hide God from us, and take away the relevance of planet earth, God's main creation.

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Malvina #fundie christianforums.com

New Age Christians here could argue against this subject and this wont help anyone so I wont go into a lot of detail but most Christian prophets think Cern's aim is to open the 'other side abyss' allowing demonic entities to take over our world. Practically that is already happening and there have been a lot of paranormal visions over the world. It amazes me how much of these are not published more! - like strange cloud formations, cities in the sky, loud noises trumpet sounds etc
A few years ago just one of these things would have been World News but now there is no fuss no one bothers because we have all been hypnotised by the world-wide web

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Malvina #fundie christianforums.com

I have great compassion for genuine cases but I think it's just become a fad for people rebellious to God. It's New Age stuff where they aim to control the world with computer transgender robots

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allhart #fundie christianforums.com

Why do ppl act as tho they are so educated n act as tho they are not subjective in their scientific truth..., look I gave u something to pursue n I am not going to educate u on the forums n do your work for u.... Science is still after the fact not behind it all.... He's another tidbit.... Your brain resonates at 7.83hz n the earth resonates at 7.83hz, now that said u think u could survive on earth being out of phase?

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AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

[On the subject of the discovery of homo naledi]

A human being.

One who probably had one of God's bone-altering "wonderful plagues" put on them.

Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

If you read the 38th Psalm, you'll see David died of such a disease.

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ThankGodforGod #fundie christianforums.com

MORE PROOF SCIENCE IS EVIL

These are recent pictures from the new and improved Hubble. Clearly they are all forgeries since one says 430 MILLION LIGHT YEARS away (that is called looking back in time folks) and we all know that nothing can exist farther than 10,000 light years. I wonder what sound stage they did this on? I bet they got ILM to do the shuttle take off, then killed them all to keep it secret.


Also I am thinking maybe the Hubble is really just a front for the new NWO superweapon. I mean, this is assuming that what we call "space" is even real, I like the older ideas where God is just laying his coat on one side of the earth and poking holes to make "stars". This is very simple people, just ask yourself, "what has science ever given me"?

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interpreter #fundie christianforums.com

Muslims should be deported because they are pagans and because they are killing us. Pagans, and especially Muslims, should not enjoy any rights because they should not be here. God wants the US to remain a Christian nation.