[Lindstrom, do you have a personal grudge against doctors?]
I got a personal grudge agaist medical science.
Think about it they use nitroglycerine to prevent heart attacks.
It is nitroglycerine.
I can make bombs out of it.
I don't like that idea.
They cure cancer with radiation which comes from substances similar to the active ingreidence of a atombomb.
And when they do not manage to heal a person, which most often are made bacause of the placebo effect togather with the treatment. And the person dies.
All the doctors say... opps they died.
Jesus can for sure treat illness.
He can cure.
A doctor is a modern sorcerer... Nothing else
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Think about it they use nitroglycerine to prevent heart attacks.
You can make bombs out of dry ice and a plastic bottle. That doesn't make dry ice and plastic bottles not useful for other purposes.
They cure cancer with radiation which comes from substances similar to the active ingreidence of a atombomb.
Actually, the radiation is usually from substances that have far more in common with the byproducts of an atomic bomb than the raw materials. The raw materials are reasonably stable as long as you don't have too much of it together and some free neutrons to throw at it.
All the doctors say... opps they died.
You've never actually talked to a doctor who loses a patient, have you? It's hard on them, because they feel they could have done more (even though that's often not the case). They get past it because otherwise they wouldn't be able to do their job, and for every one they lose they probably manage to save dozens.
Jesus can for sure treat illness.
Every properly done study on the topic says prayer has no measurable effect.
"[Lindstrom, do you have a personal grudge against doctors?]A grudge, good place to start an intellectual banter.
"Think about it they use nitroglycerine to prevent heart attacks.
It is nitroglycerine."
Yes. It was discovered because former employees at a dynamite plant often had heart attacks soon after they left their jobs. Turned out they had attacks because they were no longer exposed to nitroglycerine.
"I can make bombs out of it."
No, I don't believe you can. It wouldn't explode, you couldn't get ahold of a suitable quantity and you'd never be able to afford it.
"I don't like that idea."
So, rather than using nitroglycerine to save lives you would take away the nitro pills because you think maybe, kinda, somehow someone might be able to make a bomb out of them?
"They cure cancer with radiation which comes from substances similar to the active ingreidence of a atombomb."
Cool, huh? Think about it, dinkwad, they wouldn't use radiation if it didn't work. You already admitted that it can "cure cancer," so what's your problem?
"And when they do not manage to heal a person, which most often are made bacause of the placebo effect togather with the treatment. And the person dies."
The placebo effect would be a benefit, shithead. I support your right to refuse any and all modern medical treatments, in fact, I think you should refuse such treatments.
"All the doctors say... opps they died."
Maybe they say "oops." Doctors can cure everyone, every time, in any condition.
"Jesus can for sure treat illness.
He can cure."
So what's his excuse for not doing it?
"A doctor is a modern sorcerer... Nothing else"
Untrue. I challenge you from here on out to rely ONLY on Jesus to treat your maladies. Betcha can't do it.
A doctor is a modern sorcerer... Nothing else
"It is nitroglycerine.
The amount they use in heart attack prevention is smaller than what you use in a bomb. Drinking too much water can kill you, too, dumbass.
"they cure cancer with radiation which comes from substances similar to the active ingreidence of a atombomb."
What was said earlier, it's not actually the same substance, and by the same logic as before, it's not like chemo ever made people blow up, dumbass.
"And when they do not manage to heal a person, which most often are made bacause of the placebo effect togather with the treatment. And the person dies."
No, they don't. Deaths are usually due to things like more trauma than can be reversed in the ER.
"All the doctors say... opps they died."
No, they don't. Doctors are upset by it, as was said before.
"Jesus can for sure treat illness."
Really? Then explain to me why, when I was really little, that I would be sick with a cold or whatever, and Jesus didn't do jack shit to help me, while antibiotics would? Same thing with people I knew being sick. Nothing happened.
Please stop taking medicine and remove yourself from society.
Digitalis is a heart medication that keeps a lot of people alive, but it's also a very toxic plant,
Yeah, I remeber the doctors at my Grandpa's bedside when he passed away. He walked into the room, solemn expression on his face, put his hand on my Grandma's shoulder, and told her.
Count me in as another supporter of your right to boycott modern medicine. And, for that matter, your right to boycott all of modern science. You stick with prayer, we'll use knowledge, science, and technology. Sound fair?
If you consider a sorceror to be someone with training in methods that have been statistically shown to be better than the alternatives used in past ages of medicine, or better than leaving the person to die, then yeah, they're just modern sorcerors.
Whoa, this guy doesn't understand a whole lot does he.
Speaking of nitroglycerine, one of my buddies said that fundies (in general, but creationists in particular) are so dumb that if common sense or logic were dynamite, they wouldn't be able to blow up their nose!
See Duke MedNews
John #97422
I believe notroglycerine helps to thin the blood and reduce clotting. A heart attack is a blood clot in the artery that supplies the heart with blood. (It cant take the blood from the inside to use). So yes it helps to reduce heart attacks. It also reacts violently with oxygen and heat.
OK, when you or a member of your family get a life-threatening illness, you won't be bothering with those sorcerers, then?
As long as we're on a roll, we flavor our food with a compound made from equal parts (atom for atom):
Niali wrote:
No inanimate object or mortal power is inherently good or evil. What defines the morality of something is all in how it's used.
I think there was a Challenge of the SuperFriends episode about this very subject.
In fact, I know there was: http://www.rogermwilcox.name/cotsf/monolith.html
My Dad's a doctor and one of the smartest, most caring people I've ever met.
Yikes, Lindstrom appears to be a 23-year-old Swedish man. How does someone that young get to be that ridiculous?
Besides what everyone keeps saying... if you mix a placebo with actual meds, it's only doing what the meds were doing to begin with. PLACEBOS ARE FAKE MEDS THAT DONT DO ANYTHING. most of the time they're SUGAR PILLS.
u can make a bomb out of pure salt... wow, are you never gonna eat salt now?
This OP was a very ignorant comment.
@Jack - Nopes, nitroglycerine dilates the coronary arteries. It works against angina pains, but not against heart attacks as the blood supply to heart tissue is already blocked.
By the way, oxygen is toxic. It's also the element we need from the air.
It's idiots like this that make reflect on the Xian and Jewish myth of the rebellion in heaven:
Lucifer was told to bow down to man - having a bit of foresight he knew that Lindstrom would eventually be born. He said to god "you expect me, a creature of light, to bow down to such a stupid little shit? You've got another think coming...
and the rest is mythology
Too bad Jesus doesn't actually cure sickness... prayers go unanswered, even by the most devout. One of the big things that turned me away from Christianity.
http://www.godisimaginary.com/i1.htm
Actually, it IS nitroglycerine. But there was a MythBusters episode about it. Guess what? You can make it explode. But it won't cause more than a minor burn. Guess how they made it explode? Point-blank gunshot. I think you'd have more to worry about than the heart patch explosion, personally.
So your saying that antibiotics are just pills made from flour to make a placebo-effect? Why don't you get some yest and bacteria, put them in a same dish and look with microscope what happens. And your complaining about radiation? Well, unless you didn't know, the sun is a one giant nuclear plant...
Great. Take him for a walk through the hospital. It'd do wonders for your faith too. What's that? He hasn't even been on Earth in 2000 years? Well,I guess it's back to trusting our modern day sorcerers.
As for the "opps[sic] they died." remark, what are they supposed to do? Tear off their shirts and scream "WHYYYYYYY?! WHYYYYYY?!" (And for the record, I've never heard of a doctor going into the waiting room, shrugging, and going "Meh. Shit happens.")
And we use uranium in nuclear reactors--the same uranium that is manufactured into nuclear bombs. Horrors.
As someone who has actually watched bacteria die in culture while under a microscope when exposed to antibiotics, fuck you with a rake.
In the words of Edward Norton:
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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