Our 17-year-old daughter's friend announced on Facebook that he has rejected God & is now practicing wicca. Is wicca considered part of the occult? We are very upset because our family has had problems with curses, etc. being placed on us by homosexual neighbors in the past. These had to be broken by a priest. We don't want to have to deal with anything like this ever again. Thank you for your help.
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Oh GOOD GRAVY!
Your daughter's friend hasn't rejected God, he's rejected your stinky Demiurge....and Wicca is a peaceful religion that teaches "Harm None". The closest a Wiccan would get with curses is a "binding" spell.
And "Homosexual" is not synonymous with "Spell Caster/Witch/Sorcerer".
Why can't you be one of those more perfectly normal, sane, average, Moderate, Vatican II Catholics, the kind who are good Catholics who, even if they very much practicing, aren't frummy & insane?
Man, when I was a kid, the Catholics used to be more moderate & worldly and, while they did have some ultra-conservative rules involving birth control or whatever, didn't make a big to-do about it.
Then the 1990's came and the Fog of Frum from The Bay of Fundies started to leak in.....I blame EWTN!
Wicca has as it's primary (and only) rule 'Harm None'. If a curse is tossed at you - even a homosexual one - it isn't coming from the Wiccans. They believe in Karma and the Threefold Law, which says any energy you send out, for good or for evil, returns to you times three.
Is it occult? In a manner of speaking. Wicca falls under the label of 'Occult', just not in the way christians think. The energies raised have nothing to do with evil or your Satan.
I suggest reading up on this. Research leads to understanding, understanding leads to fewer irrational fears in regard to people different from yourselves.
It's simple; stop attacking homosexual neighbors, and they will stop putting curses on you!
What is "the occult"? I'd say Christianity is part of "the occult".
According to Wikipedia, it seems Science is the opposite of "the occult".
"These had to be broken by a priest."
Priests do not break curses in mainstream christianity. I do not know what crazy cult they belong to, but it does bode well.
So when Christians pray (or is it "prey") for da Lawd to intervene here on earth in sporting events, political issues, gambling, illnesses, or just general success in life, that isn't supernatural? Just other people's gods and spirits, right?
What a dolt.
I grew up surrounded by Catholics, and I find it really sad to see how much Catholicism has been infected by fundy ideas. I knew people who wore charms and amulets (which is what scapulars and saints' medals are,) but nobody would admit to believing in curses unless they were a recent immigrant. I guess now priests feel they have to give people what they want in order to stay in business, and if that means a few anti-demonic rites, so be it. 'Back in the day' a priest would have told you to go to confession, mass, and then see a psychiatrist.
Yes! Don't piss off your daughter's friend or else he's going to put a curse on you! Oooga booga!
Honestly I just can't understand how fucking superstitious people can be in the 21st century. 60 years ago people thought we'd be traveling around in flying cars, but we're just as afraid of the dark as ever.
@nazani14
Exactly what I said. Exorcism was a very rare thing and the Church demanded rigorous psychiatric evaluations to make EXTRA-SURE that it wasn't something supernatural. Yes, exorcising something in general seems rather loony but even if exorcism was considered possible, the RC Church was modern & sensible enough to say "That guy's not possessed! He needs a shrink!".
If Catholics were moderate and reasonable like they were in my childhood, I may have never left it. Who knows?
But I'm happier being a NeoPagan.
Why should a homosexual neighbor put a curse on you unless you were a hate-filled homophobic bigot, in which case, the curse might well have come from God, since you certainly didn't love your neighbor like you were told.
Magic does not exist, it is nothing but superstition, a flaw of human psychology. Also, Wicca has nothing to do with the "witches" of the witch hunts, who were simply normal (Christian) women who fell victim to a mass hysteria that the authorities accepted. Wicca on the other hand is just New Age Hippie nonsense based on bad comparative mythology that claims the "witches" as theirs for countercultural/persecution appeal and publicity.
And homosexuality granting magic is just absurd.
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curses, etc. being placed on us by homosexual neighbors in the past. These had to be broken by a priest.
I'm voting Poe, simply because no priest can perform an exorcism on his own. He has to have explicit permission from his bishop. Even if there are a few whacky bishops out there, I doubt any bishop would want to go on record as having granted permission for a priest to break homosexual neighbors' curses.
he has rejected God & is now practicing wicca
No, he didn't. He said that he was Wiccan, you invented the "rejected god" part yourself.
our family has had problems with curses, etc. being placed on us by homosexual neighbors in the past.
No, you haven't. You are either lying or delusional.
@ #1733821
Scratch
"Does being gay give you magic now? Did I miss that memo?"
Yes, you did....[checks file]....
It's in paragraph 22.1.A, section 2, in revision 23 of The Gay/Atheist/Liberal/Communist/Wiccan/Scientist Agenda.
#1733899
Old Viking
"What's the going rate for curse removals these day?"
EUR 599,90 pr. curse removal attempt, with an additional fee of EUR 99,90 when the curse is confirmed as removed.
You can get a bulk discount, and a further special liability discount, if you have homosexual, Wiccan or homosexual Wiccan neighbors.
Regards & all,
Thomas L. NIELSEN
Inquisitor General
Curse Removals R Us
Luxembourg office
I can just picture the effects of this homosexual curse on their house...
What, did you suddenly have immaculate interior design? Did Judy Garland posters unroll themselves on the wall? Did Indigo Girls CDs just suddenly start playing in the background?
Please, tell us more about this curse?
And that was probably the easiest money that priest ever made. I can just picture the inquiry:
OP: "Mr. Priest, our gay neighbors put a curse on our house. Can we pay you to remove it?"
Priest, dumbfounded, "um...well sure...of course I can!"
"our family has had problems with curses, etc. being placed on us by homosexual neighbors in the past."
Funny, my homosexual neighbos never put a curse on me.
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