(You know that the Bible is true because it is the Word of God, and you know that it is the Word of God because it says so. Round and round we go...)
Maybe YOU see circular logic, but I see miraculous preservation.
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Actually, that was the exact definition of circular logic. faith in the unproveable assertion that it, in fact, is the Word of God.
To a Christian it's about faith, not about logic, so you will never get a true fundie Christian to see the circular logic involved. Well, very few, I mean. I personally know a few Christians who do acknowledge that their faith is illogical, but they have faith that it is correct.
Remember the guy who said "Give me a big enough lever and a solid enough place to stand on and I can move the world?" Well, religion is a very big lever, and faith is a very solid place to stand. It's just sad that neither the religion nor the faith has to be legitimate or true to be effective...
Sandman, you are among my favorite Christians. I admire your honesty regarding the lack of logic behind this whole "Word of God" thing.
Sandman said:How can faith be a solid place to stand, if it isn't logical and based on evidence?
And how can a religion or faith be deemed "true" or "legitimate" withouth those things?
I'd love to see the criteria, then!
HairlessMonkey, faith, being totally subjective, is solid if the person holding the faith believes it to be so. What I was indicating was that to a "true believer," their "faith" when supported by their "religion" can dramatically affect the world, either for good or for ill.
As Shakespeare wrote, "A rose by any other name..." That is what you have here. Whether you call it circular logic or miraculous preservation, it is still the same thing and it smells the same...shitty.
Good one Julian.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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