Those involved in the sin of homosexuality are enslaved by it and do not have free will. Those who support them support their continued enslavement and do not love them.
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Wait, don't most fundies think that homosexuality is a choice that they can change? At least this one seems to be saying that it is out of the homosexual's hands, that it is the way they are, (sort of) however saying a homosexual is a slave to his/her desires is akin to saying someone is a slave to what foods they enjoy eating. It is what it is. Now I'm not defending this poster, merely saying that they at least seem to acknowledge that the desire is out of one's control to change. As for saying their friends and family who treat them as human-beings by not making a ruckus over their preferance do not love them, well that's just a load of shit.
Fuck you, Dante's Virgil! I wanted to do that![/joke]
--Is going to sulk all day now. ;)
I noticed it skeeved you so badly you mispelled your own name. :D
Well, technically and Biblically, he's correct. I believe it's somewhere in Romans that Paul seems to imply that homosexuals (and other sexual "deviants"), because they have given themselves up to their lusts, are hardened in their "sinful lusts" by God himself, so as to make it impossible for these people to ever seek redemption and forgiveness - basically, once you start down the dark path, God hardens your heart (and perhaps other parts) to make sure you never ever turn away from it.
What a great god, eh?
MK -- Yeah, that's "Saint" Paul from Romans 1:26-32 on a tirade against homosexuals. Paul ascribes all sorts of bad behaviors to homosexuals including: (Rom 1:29-31 KJV) "Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
Shows where the Fundies get their wild ideas about homosexuals, eh?
Evergreen wrote: I've wondered more than once how many Christians are involved in BDSM... all that submitting to the lord and wives submitting to their husbands...
NJ Osprey wrote: Not to mention self-flagellation. Its wrong to “spank your monkey” but its OK to “crack the whip.”
Not to mention Mel Gibson's film, "The Passion of Christ" - something in there for sadists and masochists, alike.
Hell, you could replace homosexuality with heterosexuality for all these people care. All sex is a sin for them. My question is, if humans are animals, and, as such, have basic drives and urges, among which, and second only to the drive to survive, is the drive to reproduce, why would God make us that way...and then say, "No, don't do that, it's bad."
Something about that does not compute...
If they have no free will over it...then you're saying it's not something they choose or can change.
You were on the right track to tolerance, then hit the brick wall of your ignorance.
Does that mean that homosexuality is just a bad habit, that people can shake if they try hard enough? No, that's not homosexuality. That's religion and its relatives, homophobia and hate.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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