[On people in the UK calling Christmas tree lights "winter lights."]
How ridiculous, seems like people are always trying to censor Christ everywhere, just more signs of the last days. Those people will have to answer one day, God have mercy on them.
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I don't see political correctness as a sign of the last days or something that God will damn, but I am frustrated by political correctness and the idea that changing words will solve all the problems. This fundie just takes what would be a rational position into a fundie one, and for that, I say you're a "deferred succeeder" ;)
According to some web sources:http://www.highway7.com/t_culture/culture_9912_origin_of_christmas.html
Although its origins reach back to pagan times, the practice of celebrating the season with light took on religious significance as Judaism and Christianity developed.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1041/is_n12_v74/ai_18866667
This yearly event of the death and re-birth of the Light of the World gave rise to the annual celebration of the Festival of the Winter Solstice. It was also called the Feast of Lights. This celebration was highlighted by communal bonfires, sacred fires in the temples and burning torches and candles for the homes, all in honor of the re-birth of the fiery sun, the timeless symbol of their Life Giver. Feasting, gift-giving and oftentimes excessive revelry became part of this celebration. Evergreen trees (pines and firs) were considered sacred, as they remained forever green throughout the year. A pine tree was cut down each year, carried to the temples and decorated with a star on top, for the ancients knew that a star was simply a nascent (newly born) sun.
http://www.indigosun.com/Dec2000/winter_solstice.htm
Because Saturnalia took place at the Solstice, it was also known as the Festival of Lights. Many of the presents given were candles, used to summon the sun back to life. Several hundred years later, the Celts also developed a winter festival, which they called "Candlemas." It was a midwinter house-cleaning day wherein people would light candles and clean everything.
http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?action=viewAsset&id=336
The reason why the fathers transferred the celebration of the sixth of January to the twenty fifth of December was this. It was a custom of the heathen to celebrate on the same twenty-fifth of December the birthday of the Sun, at which they kindled lights in token of festivity. In these solemnities and festivities the Christians also took part. Accordingly when the doctors of the Church perceived that the Christians had a leaning to this festival, they took counsel and resolved that the true Nativity should be solemnized on that day and the festival of the Epiphany on the sixth of January. Accordingly, along with this custom, the practice has prevailed of kindling fires till the sixth.
http://maggiek.web.aplus.net/highholidayspecialedition/id43.html
Need I go on?
Thanks, What The...?, that was perfect! People who claim that Christmas trees, Christmas lights, and related traditions originally had anything to do with Christ are as far off base as those who claim, "If the king's English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."
"Those people will have to answer one day..."
Not only do fundies seem to be ignorant of the history of their religion and it's bible, they are ignorant of the number of things, secular or other- religion in origin, they claim as their own.
It's funny how christians bitch and moan that they are being censored, when all the while if they had the power, they would do the same to their opponents. They are always trying to get other's rights taken away, while complaining that theirs are being taken away. Such a double standard. It's ok for us to take away the rights of others, as long as our rights are not taken away. It's okay for us to persecute those who don't believe our version of religion, as long as others don't do it to us. Such hypocritical bastards.
Perhaps, Chuckie, you will have to answer for your blind obedience to an unreviewed faith. But, you're young, I hope you might be able to figure it out.
I love that, of all the things that Christians could have chosen to try to shove down the public's throat in the name of fighting censorship, they've chosen Christmas. The holiday barely has anything to do with their savior; if Jesus existed, he wouldn't have even been born in December: the Christians chose the date in order to help convert pagans to Christianity. The majority of the practices have nothing whatsoever to do with religion. Really, aside from the name, Christmas has squat to do with their religion.
You damned christians stole our pagan festival and renamed it, we're just reclaiming it.
Fuck you and the donkey you rode in on.
Excuse me, I was eating my freedom fries while watching a show about handicapped little people who help homeless people when I came upon the post, and I have to say this is totally politically incorrect this post.
Who cares what they call em?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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