You know what may very well be the summit of human emotions for me? It's using my own God-given eyes and making an unschooled, (unbrainwashed) common sense observation of the world that gets laughed at on here because it flatly contradicts decades of established evo "science," only to then have my common sense observation validated by leading academics of the field. I knew virtually nothing about vision when I pronounced that science was being ridiculous for asserting that vision is something that's embedded within the dark confines of our brains. It only makes sense that vision is a two-way street, something that probably happens outside the body, that it's not just about light coming in, but also about light going out and how/when/where these lights meet to help create an image in the mind.
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You know what may very well be the summit of human emotions for me? It's using my own God-given eyes and making an unschooled, (unbrainwashed) common sense observation of the world that gets laughed at on here because it flatly contradicts decades of established evo "science...
Interesting. Now, speaking only for myself, I experience the summits of Human emotion during events such as my wedding, the birth of my son, downloading new Doctor Who episodes serving as my dad's best man when he and my mom renewed their wedding vows, etc. etc.
only to then have my common sense observation validated by leading academics of the field. ... It only makes sense that vision is a two-way street, something that probably happens outside the body, that it's not just about light coming in, but also about light going out and how/when/where these lights meet to help create an image in the mind.
What the fuck are you blathering about? Nobody other than yourself believes that, least of all the scientific community!
only to then have my common sense observation validated by leading academics of the field.
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I knew virtually nothing about vision when I pronounced that science was being ridiculous for asserting that vision is something that's embedded within the dark confines of our brains. It only makes sense that vision is a two-way street, something that probably happens outside the body, that it's not just about light coming in, but also about light going out and how/when/where these lights meet to help create an image in the mind.
THAT was the example that you used as 'validation'? Are you fucking serious? I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, but I guarantee no scientist let alone an optician would understand or agree with you.
Scientists agree with you.
Well, Science has progressed a little bit since then and no scientist today still believes in the seeing process involving active emission of radiation by the eyes ;)
Well, to reach the conclusion of the brain-process, you have to be aware of the existence of a brain, and what it's for. Without science, you'd never know. Sceptical?, ask the Egyptians of the past how "sacred" the brain was for them when they mummified people.
The last time SS commented on the speed of light, he asked why we couldn't see it coming.
Stupid has reached a new, unprecedented level.
Your brain is not a prism, dumbass (although it does seem to have encountered severe damage, which may or may not have been due to broken glass). Epic fail.
Oh, and can I borrow your eyes for a sec, Supes? I want to see the looks on the rest of the posters' faces.
...No? Fine, be that way. We Aliens have vastly superior sensory organs of our own. *bumps into a concrete wall because it was room temperature*
Supersport, clamping your eyes shut, sticking your fingers in your ears and saying LA LA LA LA LA at the top of your lungs whenever someone does show you proof of anything that contradicts your bible, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Seems like I have to correct myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_theory_(vision)
The really funny thing is that,according to the same wikipedia article, despite of this fact 50% of american college students believe in the emission theory.
Unschooled, unbrainwashed common sense...
Translation: My ignorant, bible biased cop out to real science.
STFU.
Next?
I don't have the first clue what you're trying to say, but I'm pretty sure eyes don't work that way (there's something to be said for being schooled in what you're trying to discuss). Neither does science. Common sense and our natural senses can be wrong/fooled (perception is a pretty complicated thing; our sense organs don't just record, but also interpret, what we sense), which we have often found to be the case, so nothing can be taken as simple "common sense observation" (although how is what you said either common sense OR and observation?).
Anyone remember "peace girl" from IIDB (FRDB)? She argued the exact same thing for 10,000+ posts and well over 6 months last year. I hope she and supersport never meet, because it'd probably create a super dense black hole of Fail that will destroy the planet...
@ Eden:
I just went and read the reference the Wikipedia article refers to. The study was pretty convoluted. When people are given a simple choice, like "Does vision involve input or output?" only 13% believe the eye is outputting anything. When they are shown a bunch of illustrations with wavy lines drawn this way and that, and big green dots moving either towards or away from the eye, or both, or one then the other, the study started to get the 50% numbers. It seems more accurate to conclude that 50% of people got confused by the test, and that something closer to 13% believe in the sort of thing SuperSport here is babbling on about.
@Eden: "The really funny thing is that,according to the same wikipedia article, despite of this fact 50% of american college students believe in the emission theory."
Well, you know what they say about Wikipedia. And, er, you know what they say about American college students....
[With apologies to those Americans who graduated having actually gained a basic understanding of science, or even common sense.]
"unschooled, (unbrainwashed) common sense observation" = uneducated, uniformed and ignorant observation.
As for SS's eye-beam idea, how can a literate man in the Western world today NOT know how vision works, at least the basic idea?
Why aren't our brains projecting images of themselves all over the place?
Because eye beams are faster than light, so they're not light and you can't see them. But they're there. It pisses off the zombies, who can see the eye beams and they're forced to look at all those brain pr0ns.
of course supersport isn't brainwashed, he'd need a brain for that to happen.
@ El Zorro
"I knew virtually nothing about vision..."
* And social democracy, developmentalism, regulation, and other hard-learned ideas.
I refuse to believe anything this guy has ever said has ever been validated by leading academics of any field, or even non-leading academics. Or, really, anyone.
Confused?
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