depression? bin their, dont that, almost killed myself (it involved a bus and God) but some level of depression are natual in teenagers and i personally dont agree with anti-depressants and i think that you should work through your problems with a therapist instead of getting druged to the eyeballs.
next tiime your depressed, pick up your bile, and read. maybe God will give you a page or a verse to read (he did that to me once) but it can still be comforting.
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i personally dont agree with anti-depressants
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next tiime your depressed, pick up your bile, and read. maybe God will give you a page or a verse to read And this is where faith kills.
Your right ... err, you are right. How did the accident involve a bus and GOD? Ian drove a bus straight over the stranger on the street, turns out the stranger is GOD and the bus crashes, because GOD is Hulk?
"next tiime your depressed, pick up your bile, and read."
Eww, dude, pick up your own damn bile. Or, better yet, get to the hospital and have your liver checked out. Sounds like a serious medical condition (maybe caused by that bus crashing into gawd).
My Effexor XR wanted to state (for the record): "Fuck you asshole!"
It is true that some mental conditions can be overcome by little more than therapy and self determination, I can say from experiance that drugs are often nessecary to take the edge off of someone while they are going through therapy.
I would probably be a nervous wreck were it not for anti-depressants.
Shut the fuck up you presumptuous, ignorant assbite.
I have severe clinical depression. Years of talk therapy did nothing for me. Talk therapy does nothing for people whose depression stems from an imbalance of brain chemicals. Anti-depressant meds saved my life.
I have no plans to pick up or read my "bile."
As concerns reading the Bible, I'll bet dollars to dead leaves that I'm wat ahead of you on that. Also, most of the Bible is anything but comforting.
A) Teen angst is normal, and anti-depressants can be a little dangerous in young people, but that doesn't mean there's no such thing as true depression in teenagers, or that medication isn't an option, just that it should be carefully diagnosed and drugs given under proper supervision.
B) Therapy helps, but a combination of chemical and talk therapy is widely considered to be most effective.
C) You don't have to be "drugged to the eyeballs." I have depression and get significant relief from a low dose of medication. I'm hardly drugged to my eyeballs.
D) If I were in a depression, reading the bible would likely either bore or agrivate me to suicide (exageration. don't call a hotline or anything).
God will give you a page or a verse to read (he did that to me once) but it can still be comforting.
Get on the meds. Please.
Unfortunatly I can't even hope to believe that English is the second or third language of most of these fundies.
He should just take the medicine. Taking a pill for every pain is overkill (I don't like pills and don't use them unless there is good reason to), but if you are depressed and the doctor said they work, do it.
"And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel." (Judges 19:29)
"Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it.
And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him." (I Samuel 31:4-5)
Yes. So comforting. Not.
Napoleon the Clown said:
"You are a fucking liar. The Bible only makes you feel like a more worthless peice of shit."
Amen brother.
Ian, as for your sweeping generalizations I'd just like to say fuck yourself in the temple with a lawn dart. A friend of mine is prone to severe bouts of depression in which he 'jokes' about shit that gives me the chills just thinking about now. There have been more than a few times that I felt that our last conversation was our LAST conversation. I tried unsuccessfully for years to get him to get in and talk to someone and I always got the 'I don't wanna be a zombie on meds, i might as well kill myself if I have to live that way.'
It took FOREVER (some15 years) to get him to see someone (he finally wnet on his own) and he is on very mild meds, and he hasn't had one of his 'episodes' in six years. So FUCK YOU for telling people that salvation can only be found in an outdated book that no longer applies to anybody's life. Fuck you for scaring people off from getting real professional help, and just fuck you for being alive. I hope you get ass cancer.
BTW ian, your writing skills make me depressed. SPELL CHECK MOTHERFUCKER!
As someone whose life was significantly improved by anti-depressants (allowed me to get my OCD under control), I suggest you go fuck yourself with a handgrenade, screwball...
"Tom Cruise-esque psychiatry" award?
Irene, you sound as if your depression is a lot like mine. Fortunately for me, I have gotten to the point at which I can get by without using the meds anymore, but I definitely needed them for several years to establish a proper perceptual baseline. It was only after getting to see the world without filtering it through a messed-up mind that I recognized how badly off I had been.
~David D.G.
Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Anybody else think there's a market for "I'M A SPAZ FOR GOD" T-shirts?
Me neither...
Freudian slip? "Pick up your bile, and read?"
I agree with Glyptodon. I voted 5 for the Bus and God line. That's good stuff. I'd love to hear that story. I wonder if there was a donkey and a stripper in it, too.
almost killed myself (it involved a bus and God)
I remember it well. I was working the late shift at the emergency room when they brought poor Ian1010max in on a gurney. He and God had been freebasing coke and had some kind of quarrel, and poor Ian tried to slash his wrists on a bus. He kept urking up bile and trying to read it. We had to drug him to the eyeballs.
I have very serious depression, and am currently supposed to be in a suicidal state as told to me by therepists and doctors. I agree with whoever said talk therepy doesn't work, i know from experience. Prozac and lexapro didn't work either they arn't strong enough to do shit. I'm 17 and i want to die. Legalize exit pills or medical marijuana. Is that really that hard, why can't you make a push to help so many others who are eventually going to kill themselves? If you are such a good damn christian then help keep people from commiting the sin of suicide and having to be damned and all that bad fucking voodoo shit that you think is true. Fuck your supersticious bible beating crap. I hate you fucking religous people, can't you see it's all a bunch of fucking lies? Your prayers are actually answered? no they arn't, you just are a fucking numb idiot.
In the case of lighter depression it may be a good idea for somebody to read something that they find comforting. If somebody finds the Bible to be a comforting read (and some parts are) then that might be a good thing for that person to do.
However, in the case of severe depression it is a better idea to see a therapist (as Ian suggests) or take medication.
Then why would you write that bullshit, exactly?
I'm not talking about not believing in antidepressants either. You're entitled to think that. What I'm referring to is that rather large pile of horse shit about reading "your bile (sic)" Because for some people, religion doesn't help. If it helps you, good for you. But don't tell people to read a godamn bible when they want to fucking kill themselves.
In short, go fuck yourself. Asshole.
"Pick up my bile?"
I should vomit bile?
If you are doped to the eyeballs on your antidepressants, you need your dosage adjusted.
Therapy may be adequate for some people with mild depression and/or depression caused by a specific event, but severe cases require medication as well.
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