*are there so many instances of God in our government? When we testify in court we swear on the bible. The pledge of allegience is said in God's name. Our money contains the phrase in god we trust. Etc. Isn't it true that as a nation we only claim religious freedom while actually unofficially enforcing Christian law (such as laws against adultry, sodomy, etc.)*
They meant freedom to be Christian
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WAR IS PEACE
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
SLAVERY IS FREEDOM
Oh, and Law FAIL -- there are no "Christian" laws on the books, except in a few *very* rural areas. Adultery is not illegal, nor is sodomy.
Good God, nobody, I know more about your country than you do, and I don't think about it half as much as you do.
you are completely free to do anything you want.
*sit you down in front of a table with a cupcake on it.*
if you eat that cupcake i will punish you eternally with fire.
Actually you can leave God out of the pledge of allegiance if you so desire. Same goes with swearing in court, you can affirm instead.
As for money, of course it has god's name on it! Isn't it the root of all evil? [/sarcasm]
...freedom to be Christian...
"Freedom from fear; freedom from doubt!"
"Freedom from freedom."---the Doctor speaking to B.O.S.S. in The Green Death
*Who elected God? Was it the state of Florida?
*It is not required to swear on the bible in court
*The daily recital of the Pledge devalues it. The God bit was introduced relatively recently and should be dropped as excluding Americans who do not subscribe to religion, but still love their country.
*as to the money, presumably the god (noted your lower case) it trusts in is Mammon.
*As regards adultery (note spelling) I assume you want to abolish divorce - let's see how far that runs.
*again the strange fundie interest in sodomy. You should also include haircuts and shellfish and the rest of the To'evot haGoyim in Leviticus if you wish to be consistent. It's not for cherry-picking your favourite perversion, you know.
Well, the Bible is used only by the guys WHO BELIEVE IN GOD. The oath is more than enough. And by the way, the money and the pledge of alliance added the God we trust in the fifties plus the fact that those laws against adultery and sodomy are not enforced in practice and have been abolished in most states(in fact, in Alabama, interracial marriage was illegal until 2000. However, one of my closest friends, a white woman married to a black New Yorker, could visit her family in Alabama and, in fact, they worked for a year there before the abolition with no problem. She told me later that it was because, in practice, that law was never enforced). It means you're a total misinformed person.
"When we testify in court we swear on the bible."
Wrong. No one is legally required to swear any oath on the Bible. Also, read James 5:12 and learn what YOUR BIBLE says about swearing oaths.
"The pledge of allegience is said in God's name."
This was not always the case. Also, did you know that your beloved pledge was written by a Marxist? It's funny how no one ever talks about that...
"Our money contains the phrase in god we trust."
I thought that you guys didn't believe in paper money...
"Isn't it true that as a nation we only claim religious freedom while actually unofficially enforcing Christian law (such as laws against adultry, sodomy, etc.)*"
Those laws are no longer on the books; they were (correctly) declared unconstitutional many years ago. Unpaid sex between consenting adults is completely legal in all 50 states. Get your facts straight, Mr. No-Brain. And stop trying to use the government to brutally force your social agenda on the rest of us. If you want to live in a theocratic police state, move to Iran.
the pledge used to say 'one nation, indivisible'
the money used to have the latin statement 'out of many one'
Testifying on the bible, I'm not sure where that got started. Other than at one point you couldn't swear an oath unless you were a Christian, male, landowner. Probably something thats been around since the British days.
“*are there so many instances of God in our government? When we testify in court we swear on the bible.”
A bible isn’t required in the courts I’ve been in. You’re ‘under oath’ not ‘under oath to a particular god.’
“The pledge of allegience is said in God's name.”
The Supreme Court determined that this is ‘ceremonial deism,’ not Christainity. But, go ahead and push that it violates the Constitution. You do that.
“Our money contains the phrase in god we trust. Etc.”
Pretty sure that’s also ‘ceremonial deism’ meaning that cowards were more afraid of the truth than their oaths.
“Isn't it true that as a nation we only claim religious freedom while actually unofficially enforcing Christian law (such as laws against adultry, sodomy, etc.)*”
What law against adultery?
Ever see anyone come out of a divorce court and get arrested for the adultery that was proven in the court?
We actually have a Lemon Law test to dispose of laws that are purely religious in basis.
“They meant freedom to be Christian”
That’s exactly not what it says.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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