Please tell me why there are no throwbacks to apes.
I mean why isn't anyone accidentally born with a tail anymore.
The genes were good once upon a time, right and they haven't "changed much" correct?
[OP is presented with a link to an article about humans born with tails.]
They aren't working tails, give me a break.
Looks like we have another dead weight in the Evolutionary schema, where everyone ignores the problem staring them in the face.
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"They aren't working tails, give me a break. "
Looks like we have another dead weight in the Creationary schema, where everyone ignores the facts staring them in the face.
Maybe if you're nice, you can ask Santa for one of these:
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That's right, it's a goalpost with wheels.
1. Humans are apes, always have been apes, and always will be apes.
2. Evolution; this word doesn't mean what you think it means.
(Yes this is too easy and technically wrong but I can't resist)
"Please tell me why there are no throwbacks to apes."
You mean other than fundies?
Consider also that Apes don't have tails but some are born with small ones like some humans too.
While most humans "tails" are just protrusions some have had muscular control as well. Even rarer yes, but fundies are really good are thinking rare means never and yet miracles/healings which have never been proven are always happening.
Sangfroid
"No throwbacks to the apes"?
Did you see the last Republican National Convention? I thought they were going to start flinging poo at any second!
Are we not men? No, we are Devo!
Typical creationist jargon and sidestepping...
"Well, humans aren't born with tails anymore, so that means evolution is false, hah!"
*shown proof that humans are still born with tails*
"That's not good enough! Herp-a-derp-derp-nonsense-blather!"
Seriously, what the fuck do they want, babies with prehensile lemur tails?
Apes don't have tails, stupid, but we do have tail-bones. I bet there are a few great apes born with tails, but if they're humans, it's operated on quickly after birth.
Yes, the genes were good once upon a time, some of them are still there, only inactive. What perfect god would create us with lots of junk genes that don't do anything any more, and some turned-off genes that could have been really good to have active, like the Vitamin-C producing one, for example.
No, stop it! Leave the goal posts where they are!
Please tell me why there are no throwbacks to apes. I mean why isn't anyone accidentally born with a tail anymore.
As others have pointed out, they are, on rare occasions. But one of the laws of evolution is that it doesn't work backwards. Once genes are gone, they're almost impossible to rebuild (in the case of tails, the genes are still there and we all grow tails - and fur - for a few weeks in the fetus). That's why we have all this non-functioning stuff in our DNA: we never remove anything; we just pile new stuff on top of the rusted hulks of our ancestors' DNA. When B. F. Hall did his famous experiment where he damaged the genes of e. coli so they couldn't digest lactose, they eventually re-evolved the ability. But they didn't re-evolve the damaged genes. They evolved completely new genes that digested the lactose by a different chemical process.
Sometimes there are even vertebrae in the human tails.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tail#Human_tails
Human embryos have a tail that measures about one-sixth of the size of the embryo itself.[1] As the embryo develops into a fetus, the tail is absorbed by the growing body. The developmental tail is thus a human vestigial structure.[2][3] Infrequently, a child is born with a "soft tail", which contains no vertebrae, but only blood vessels, muscles, and nerves, although there have been several documented cases of tails containing cartilage or up to five vertebrae.[4]
@[I]Old Viking
Coccyx.
Gesundheit
What is a "working tail"? Lots of animals have tails that don't really do anything.
"The coccyx, or tailbone, is the remnant of a lost tail. All mammals have a tail at one point in their development; in humans, it is present for a period of 4 weeks, during stages 14 to 22 of human embryogenesis. This tail is most prominent in human embryos 3135 days old. The tailbone, located at the end of the spine, has lost its original function in assisting balance and mobility, though it still serves some secondary functions, such as being an attachment point for muscles, which explains why it has not degraded further.
(from the Wikipedia article on vestigiality).
What would a working tail be exactly?
The images that he were shown were humans with tails. I suppose they had no tail muscles, but that's because they're humans. Humans don't have built in muscle structure for tails because (usually) they don't have tails!
Please tell me why there are no throwbacks to apes.
This is a lemur....image
Looks like King Julien has destroyed your argument.image
Lemurs are awesome! Adorable, too!
Joel thought so....image
@ Sasha & Old Viking
You two....image
"I mean why isn't anyone accidentally born with a tail anymore."
Glazing past the fact that apes by definition do not have tails...
It's because the code for a tail is not in our genes anymore. It's been bred out of us. If you look at an x-ray you'll find that we do have the vestigial remnants of a tail, the coccyx.
The fact of the matter is we walk upright, a tail is not useful to us but instead would get in the way. Even if there were (and there are) mutations where a tail is present on a human it wouldn't really serve a purpose related to survival or reproduction and thus probably would not be bred back into the race in a large scale to the point where we would all develop fully formed tails again. The process would take many, many, many generations. A brand new, fully functional tail would not happen over night. By the end of the process we would probably be an entirely different species.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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