Well over 53% (a 1972 statistic) of couples who contracept end up in divorce, while 3% of couples who use Natural Family Planning end up in divorce. They never mention this in high schools.
Little girls do not grow up dreaming of hopping from bed to bed and contraception. They dream of a man who will sweep them off their feet and love them forever, and of having his many children. A cynicism born of the sexual revolution has brought emptiness to the hearts, wombs and lives of far too many modern women. This emptiness and pain can be avoided or redeemed and healed by the love of Christ and adherence to His teachings. The Catholic Church believes in such dreams because God wrote them on the human heart. And there are men who long for such a woman to love and cherish.
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Well over 53% (a 1972 statistic) of couples who contracept end up in divorce, while 3% of couples who use Natural Family Planning end up in divorce. They never mention this in high schools.
Citation and more up-to-date numbers, or there's a very good reason not to mention it in high schools.
Little girls do not grow up dreaming of hopping from bed to bed and contraception. They dream of a man who will sweep them off their feet and love them forever, and of having his many children.
Mind-reading for Jesus.
The Catholic Church is the last bastion on earth of true romance.
...said Father Badtouch to his favorite altar boy.
Correlation=/=causation.
As for everything else...nigh incomprehensible and tangential babble.
"Well over 53% (a 1972 statistic) of couples who contracept end up in divorce, while 3% of couples who use Natural Family Planning end up in divorce. They never mention this in high schools."
Maybe because it's not 1972 anymore and things have the rather nasty habit to change...?
Retard!
When I was growing up, I dreamed of being part of the crew on an exploratory starship. Then again, I don't think I was the typical little girl. My heroes were Spock and Sherlock Holmes (until I discovered Einstein and Marie Curie), I loathe pink, I read my brother's X-men and Avengers comics instead of the Jackie my mother insisted on buying for me, the last time I wore anything remotely dress-shaped was at my second wedding (it's our nineteenth anniversary at the winter solstice), and our son (thirteen) regularly discusses physics (and time travel - spot the Dr Who aficionados...) with me. And my husband and I absolutely have used contraception right the way through our relationship, except when we decided to try for a sprog.
Anyone accusing us of not having 'real love' is asking for a beating. I'll let Ken go first.
(And my mother still hasn't forgiven me for not being the girly girl she wanted...)
They dream of a man who will sweep them off their feet and love them forever...
A cynicism born of the sexual revolution has brought emptiness to the hearts, wombs and lives of far too many modern women.
Real lovers want to give without reserve in God's own superabundance creating more hearts and lives to love.
Contraception breeds selfishness and separation that drives a wedge between husband and wife that kills love.
The Catholic Church is the last bastion on earth of true romance.
Yeah, and according to a 1892 study, no married couple used oral birth control.
Really, try keeping up with the rest of us.
Well over 53% (a 1972 statistic) of couples who contracept end up in divorce, while 3% of couples who use Natural Family Planning end up in divorce.
Did you know that 67% of all statistics are made up?
Contraception limits what should be boundless. It spits in the face of this glorious passion and love's true abandon;
Actually, a rubber would prevent "this glorious passion" from spitting in the face with "love's true abandon." That stuff burns if it gets in your eyes...
Contraception is not the sole cause of divorce. What about other factors? Correlation =/= causation, after all.
My mum used BC, and she divorced my dad because my dad is hateful, angry all the time, and nerve-grating with all of his fundie-tude and racism.
They dream of a man who will sweep them off their feet and love them forever, and of having his many children
If "no fixed address" is in fact the nym, then I guess this makes sense.
With more than 6 billion people living on this planet, I think we've had plenty of "God's own superabundance" for a while. And I would imagine that it's not contraception that kills love so much as the struggle to feed, house, and clothe a large family in this economy. How about you put less emphasis on having babies and more on getting an education and getting ahead in life?
Oh, but I forget: the more education your followers get, the less fanatically devout they are. Can't let your flock get any better ideas, can you?
Could it not be that the people who don't use contraceptions are also of the impression that divorce is equally of the devil?
If I were a betting man, my money would be on that one.
1. Stop using outdated statistics.
Little girls do not grow up dreaming of hopping from bed to bed and contraception. They dream of a man who will sweep them off their feet and love them forever, and of having his many children.
Way to sweepingly generalize an entire gender, there. If we're not dreaming of being broodmare to some dude, we're sluts. We can't win. Anyway, you're wrong. I wanted to be a toaster when I was little - damn the Brave Little Toaster. I do have a passing crush on David Draiman of Disturbed, but you'd probably think that was immoral, too.
Real lovers want their love to explode into the posterity of future generations for all eternity.
This reminds me of those cheesy "true love waits" brochures I used to get in school. They were loaded with slightly creepy innuendo like this.
@Joules, libber & Sisyphus: Sherlock Holmes? Before my time, but a quick Google shows me where you're coming from. :p
'Well over 53% (a 1972 statistic) of couples who contracept end up in divorce, while 3% of couples who use Natural Family Planning end up in divorce.'
Utter bullshit NFA. And you're using 1972 stats! From who? The Family Research Council? Focus on the Fundies? The Catholic 'Civil Rights' League?
'Little girls do not grow up dreaming of hopping from bed to bed and contraception. They dream of a man who will sweep them off their feet and love them forever, and of having his many children. A cynicism born of the sexual revolution has brought emptiness to the hearts, wombs and lives of far too many modern women. This emptiness and pain can be avoided or redeemed and healed by the love of Christ and adherence to His teachings. The Catholic Church believes in such dreams because God wrote them on the human heart. And there are men who long for such a woman to love and cherish.'
Little girls may indeed have such dreams, but I doubt your last point. For fundies, they long for such a woman - to CONTROL.
'Contraception breeds selfishness and separation that drives a wedge between husband and wife that kills love.'
Bullshit, asshole. How dare you fundy idiots presume to dictate to me & my wife whether or not we use contraception. My wife & I do not plan to have any more children (she has 1 from a previous marriage) and we have never found that birth control got in the way of our love.
'The Catholic Church is the last bastion on earth of true romance.'
More bullshit. The Church has repeatedly tried to stifle ALL sex except in the name of procreation.
One, it can't be 53%, because the nationwide rate of divorce is 50%, and the use of contraconceptives is enormous. Second, can you put your statistics up-to-date?, and cite sources for that matter?. And by the way, couldn't God make money and substainty more boundless?. And what's the difference between natural and not natural contraconception?. It would be equally harmfull, following your logic. By the way, correlation doesn't mean causation. If people who use NFP don't divorce as much as those who use regular contraconception(and alert from 1972, the numbers have rosen sharply, which reinforce our thesis)is because they have more difficulties to divorce, not because it works. In fact, the numbers concerning VD in the Catholic Church, without being catastrophic, give concern to officials. Why?, that a couple doesn't split doesn't mean that they do it out of marital bliss. It means that they refuse to divorce but that their marriage is not happy.
"Contraception breeds selfishness and seperation that drives a wedge between husband and wife that kills love"
My husband and I while I was on the patch: "Lets do it! Wheeee!"
While not on the patch: "Pull out! Pull out! Oh godammit."
Some wedge.
Sorry, I was too busy dreaming about being a scientist, artist, writer and all the other careers made possible by the feminist movement to worry about bearing a man's many children.
I chose scientist by the way.
@ Joules: You're awesome. :)
@ eppendork: scientists, ftw. I'm a chem major, btw. :)
@OP: First of all, you're a nutcase. Secondly, you religious people have no idea what makes a real marriage work, do you? I may not be married, but based on my observations, the marriages that tend to work are the ones where there is open communication and mutual respect. You have to feel like you are able to tell your partner what you want and that you can feasibly get that from them.
OP: Get it, sex is bad, kids are good, cloning and in vitro bad, quantitz better than quality... Are you people on crack?
They dream of a man who will sweep them off their feet and love them forever, and of having his many children.
Perhaps because in the backward communities that practice Natural Family Planning, divorces are very much frowned upon, so people stay married even though they have nothing in common any more, besides their large brood of offspring.
When I was little, I dreamed of what I would become, which profession I would have, where I would live. A man to share it with was part of the dreams, sure, but not the one and only dream.
Contraception removes the fear of becoming pregnant at the wrong time. You don't have to "tame" your love but can engage in it whenever you want. How does that suffocate love?
Is it true romance to accidentally becoming pregnant with someone you hardly know, and be forced to marry and spend your whole life together with that person, due to a temporary slip? Sounds VERY romantic...
"Every sperm is sacred..."
No, as a little girl I dreamed of having an electric train set and a chemistry set. I never dreamed of being a mommy.
Grew up to get my "chemistry set" (indeed, a whole laboratory), but I'm still waiting for the train.
“Well over 53% (a 1972 statistic) of couples who contracept end up in divorce, while 3% of couples who use Natural Family Planning end up in divorce. They never mention this in high schools.”
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